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Hiking Rain Jacket
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:09 am
Looking to get a Rain Jacket for hiking on Black Friday.
Looking online at brands like Patagonia, Marmot, OR, REI, North Face, etc... Read a ton of reviews and it appears that none actually keep you dry. Anyone have a go to that actually keeps you dry, but can be packed in a backpack when its dry.
Looking online at brands like Patagonia, Marmot, OR, REI, North Face, etc... Read a ton of reviews and it appears that none actually keep you dry. Anyone have a go to that actually keeps you dry, but can be packed in a backpack when its dry.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:20 am to Nighthawk504
I have a Simms Gore-Tex . It’s my second. The 1st was good for 20yrs. This one is 4-5 yrs old and going strong.
I’ve worn them when absolutely pouring and I was dry save for my lower shirt sleeves
I’ve worn them when absolutely pouring and I was dry save for my lower shirt sleeves
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:34 am to Nighthawk504
Hiking in rain gear sucks no matter what.
Stone glacier, kuiu and first lite all have great stuff that has pit dump zippers so you can vent while hiking. It's ultra expensive, but it does work. Some friends of mine have that stuff and it's amazing.
There's lots of gear out there that's rain resistant and that stuff is spectacular as well. It will not keep you dry for an hour in a driving downpour, but it works fine for most occasions
Stone glacier, kuiu and first lite all have great stuff that has pit dump zippers so you can vent while hiking. It's ultra expensive, but it does work. Some friends of mine have that stuff and it's amazing.
There's lots of gear out there that's rain resistant and that stuff is spectacular as well. It will not keep you dry for an hour in a driving downpour, but it works fine for most occasions
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:47 am to Nighthawk504
I have an OR jacket with pit zippers as mentioned above which really help when exerting as you can dump and vent.
however in a steady hard rain you’ll get wet, eventually. The only jacket I have that actually stays dry inside is a swazi but it’s really expensive and doesn’t vent
I’ve looked and looked and most thru hikers recommend a poncho instead of a jacket
however in a steady hard rain you’ll get wet, eventually. The only jacket I have that actually stays dry inside is a swazi but it’s really expensive and doesn’t vent
I’ve looked and looked and most thru hikers recommend a poncho instead of a jacket
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:52 am to Nighthawk504
I have a Columbia hooded weather shell that I got at Academy a few years ago that they still sell. It can be compressed to a small ball and provides good protection. It stays in my fishing dry bag and will probably get used again tomorrow.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:07 am to Nighthawk504
FroggToggs x light
I use Frogg Toggs extremely lite. It eventually wets out after a few hour but even the expensive ones do when hiking and your sweating on the inside.
Rain jackets keep me warm and alive hiking not necessarily dry.
I use Frogg Toggs extremely lite. It eventually wets out after a few hour but even the expensive ones do when hiking and your sweating on the inside.
Rain jackets keep me warm and alive hiking not necessarily dry.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:48 am to Nighthawk504
Posted on 11/11/23 at 3:20 pm to cgrand
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I have an OR jacket with pit zippers as mentioned above which really help when exerting as you can dump and vent. however in a steady hard rain you’ll get wet, eventually. The only jacket I have that actually stays dry inside is a swazi but it’s really expensive and doesn’t vent I’ve looked and looked and most thru hikers recommend a poncho instead of a jacket
I added an umbrella as a weight penalty item this year and it’s awesome.
Shade when you need it while also doing the obvious
Posted on 11/11/23 at 3:38 pm to Nighthawk504
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Hiking Rain Jacket
If it's not goretex, I wouldn't buy it for rain.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 4:13 pm to kengel2
I have an outdoor research foray I really like for that. Pit zips are a must.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 9:21 pm to Nighthawk504
I have a REI rain jacket. Worked for me this summer in the Rockies.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:45 pm to Nighthawk504
For hiking, OR Foray. Essentially can turn into a poncho with max ventilation.
Any fabric that can keep rain out will get wet and keep sweat in when you’re in any sort of exertion mode. It may not be rainwater making you wet but you’re wet all the same. You’ve got to have a lot of ventilation unless you’re just hanging out at camp.
Any fabric that can keep rain out will get wet and keep sweat in when you’re in any sort of exertion mode. It may not be rainwater making you wet but you’re wet all the same. You’ve got to have a lot of ventilation unless you’re just hanging out at camp.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:27 pm to Nighthawk504
Helly Hansen Loke. Lightweight and packable and has pit zips.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:37 pm to Nighthawk504
Marmot Precip. Have had it for 10 years
Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:45 am to Nighthawk504
Arteryx is my recommendation. I have had a couple of their rain shells and never had an issue. Exceptionally well made and make great use of various gore Tex membranes. If you don’t find one they make in budget the precip jacket mentioned above is solid also.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:17 am to Nighthawk504
For hiking you’ll need a wicking layer next to skin, and GoreTex outer layer for breathing/protection. A hood helps as does tight cuffs too
Posted on 11/12/23 at 10:02 am to Nighthawk504
I have a Sitka very thin shell raincoat I wear for work when needed. It was stupid expensive for what it is, but I have to say it works perfectly.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 10:23 am to Nighthawk504
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Read a ton of reviews and it appears that none actually keep you dry.
I don’t know who is saying this, but they’re wrong about the Outdoor Research Foray. I probably spend 60+ days a year in the backcountry and I never leave without it. Not only is it great for rain, it’s great for wind.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:36 pm to Nighthawk504
In harsh or consistent enough conditions, you can't stay dry. You can hold it off a LOT LONGER than people think, but you will eventually soak. Gore-tex is 100% essential to a jacket if you're going to be out in it for hours/days.
That membrane drives moisture from inside the garment outward. It also is a semi-permeable membrane. So, moisture only can go one way. Outward. So, as you use it, it will dry. your body heat helps expedite that process. Over time, seams and weak points or high action areas will wear out and allow water through, but the membrane STILL works to drive it out.
I don't know how great the other types are because i really won't buy it if it doesn't have gore-tex, but mostly because i'm lazy and i just know it works. there may be other quality products that use similar technology by now.
If I were to suggest anything, it would be to look at return policy timeline and to be sure it has gore-tex. the rest is up to you for price/style etc.
That membrane drives moisture from inside the garment outward. It also is a semi-permeable membrane. So, moisture only can go one way. Outward. So, as you use it, it will dry. your body heat helps expedite that process. Over time, seams and weak points or high action areas will wear out and allow water through, but the membrane STILL works to drive it out.
I don't know how great the other types are because i really won't buy it if it doesn't have gore-tex, but mostly because i'm lazy and i just know it works. there may be other quality products that use similar technology by now.
If I were to suggest anything, it would be to look at return policy timeline and to be sure it has gore-tex. the rest is up to you for price/style etc.
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:17 pm to Nighthawk504
First, let's get the dirty little secret of GoreTex out of the way. It really isn't that breathable because to work there needs to be a pressure or humidity delta and when it is wet and there is high humidity inside the jacket from sweat the amount of water vapor that moves through the membrane is limited.
Gore-Tex used to be expanded PTFE (ePTFE) and it was patented so all the other manufacturers trying to jump on the waterproof breathable train had to use expanded PE and PU. Well about the time Gore's patent on ePTFE ran out, we figured out PTFE AKA Teflon was very bad for the environment so Gore uses expanded PF and PU now so ironically they are now using what the knockoffs used when they couldn't use ePTFE. The effectiveness of the breathability can be enhanced when these fabrics are wet by applying a DWR (durable water repellant) so water beads off the fabric, all manufacturers use it but it has to be maintained.
All that said I still love a GoreTex jacket because they have to be made to Gore's stringent standards with their seam tape and construction methods. So a GoreTex jacket especially with pit zips will be much better than solid plastic jackets but if you are humping in a 90 degree deluge you are still going to be shifting away from pure comfort quickly.
So none of the waterproof breathable fabrics are going to be miracle workers because they just can't defy physics.
All the crap out of the way my favorite technical rain jackets have always been Marmot. I have a lot of their technical gear that some I have had for nearly 30 years and have been worn alpine climbing all over the globe and most of the pieces still look almost new, it is actually remarkable how well they wear.
IMO the best shell is the Marmot Alpinist. I have two of the earlier iterations of this jacket and they are simply better than anything I have ever worn in the category. If you want a significant step down in price then the Minimalist Pro. It still has pit zips but it is a little less technical looking so you can also wear it more casually and get double duty out of it. You could do this with the Alpinist also but it really looks like a jacket you should be wearing in the great outdoors not out to eat.
Gore-Tex used to be expanded PTFE (ePTFE) and it was patented so all the other manufacturers trying to jump on the waterproof breathable train had to use expanded PE and PU. Well about the time Gore's patent on ePTFE ran out, we figured out PTFE AKA Teflon was very bad for the environment so Gore uses expanded PF and PU now so ironically they are now using what the knockoffs used when they couldn't use ePTFE. The effectiveness of the breathability can be enhanced when these fabrics are wet by applying a DWR (durable water repellant) so water beads off the fabric, all manufacturers use it but it has to be maintained.
All that said I still love a GoreTex jacket because they have to be made to Gore's stringent standards with their seam tape and construction methods. So a GoreTex jacket especially with pit zips will be much better than solid plastic jackets but if you are humping in a 90 degree deluge you are still going to be shifting away from pure comfort quickly.
So none of the waterproof breathable fabrics are going to be miracle workers because they just can't defy physics.
All the crap out of the way my favorite technical rain jackets have always been Marmot. I have a lot of their technical gear that some I have had for nearly 30 years and have been worn alpine climbing all over the globe and most of the pieces still look almost new, it is actually remarkable how well they wear.
IMO the best shell is the Marmot Alpinist. I have two of the earlier iterations of this jacket and they are simply better than anything I have ever worn in the category. If you want a significant step down in price then the Minimalist Pro. It still has pit zips but it is a little less technical looking so you can also wear it more casually and get double duty out of it. You could do this with the Alpinist also but it really looks like a jacket you should be wearing in the great outdoors not out to eat.
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