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ATF brace rule has been published

Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20379 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:17 pm
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Clock starts today, 120 days to come into compliance.

This is not meant to be an opinion poll, just a notification. We've been waiting on this to happen, to know when it becomes "real", and today it has.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19595 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:19 pm to
Is this not expected to be contested in court?
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2136 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

ATF Immediately Sued Upon Publication of Pistol Brace Rule
LINK
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38734 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

B. Options for Affected Persons

Current Unlicensed Possessors

4. Turn the firearm into your local ATF office.

5. Destroy the firearm. ATF will publish information regarding proper destruction on its website,

www.atf.gov.


Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
5509 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:32 pm to
I aint registering shite
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20379 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:35 pm to
Here's a question I have, because I don't understand "legal" beyond the layman's knowledge:

the ATF is offering a 120 day grace period in which you could register it as a SBR, and waive the $200 tax fee.

Is that something that can be delayed while the suits are processed, or can the ATF start the clock on the "free SBR" period today? I wonder, they didn't HAVE to offer that option, you simply could destroy the brace and go from there (keep the gun as a pistol and not surrender anything).

If you ultimately want an SBR, it would be good to know if you can wait on this, or you "have to" do it now.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35633 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:35 pm to
Shockwaves/Tac-14’s we’re also affected.

If you put a brace on it, you gotta take it off.

Or register it of course.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:37 pm to
They all got destroyed when I tried to kill the giant spider with the flame thrower !
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:53 pm to
ATF can kiss the direct center of my a-hole. 120 days or otherwise, the courts are going to put a halt to this. Just wait it out.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20379 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Shockwaves/Tac-14’s we’re also affected.

If you put a brace on it, you gotta take it off.

Or register it of course.
Yes and no...

There are no options to register for a SBS (Short Barreled Shotgun) with waiver on the tax stamp, unlike the SBR deal. If you register, you have to pay the fee.

But, you are 100% correct about having to remove it. The basis of the rule is- a brace is a stock. If that holds, then a brace is a stock anywhere, including a shotgun. You can not put a shotgun stock on a Shockwave, it immediately turns it into a SBS. So this would be the same exact issue as putting a Mossberg 590 stock on your Shockwave.
Posted by Beardlington
Member since Dec 2022
859 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:03 pm to
I will not comply

quote:

the courts are going to put a halt to this


even if they don't, I will not comply
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18250 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Destroy the firearm. ATF will publish information regarding proper destruction on its website,


Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35025 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:47 pm to
The atf is a terrrorist organization and as such, I will not follow the directions that a terrorist gives me.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3895 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:16 pm to
Guess this will go all the way to the Supreme Court.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Here's a question I have, because I don't understand "legal" beyond the layman's knowledge:

the ATF is offering a 120 day grace period in which you could register it as a SBR, and waive the $200 tax fee.

Is that something that can be delayed while the suits are processed, or can the ATF start the clock on the "free SBR" period today? I wonder, they didn't HAVE to offer that option, you simply could destroy the brace and go from there (keep the gun as a pistol and not surrender anything).

If you ultimately want an SBR, it would be good to know if you can wait on this, or you "have to" do it now.


You need to watch this video

LINK
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4368 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:43 pm to
So when did I miss the memo that laws are just published randomly on a tuesday now in this country?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67891 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:49 pm to

Creating new criminals out of some of our best citizens.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14285 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:02 pm to
Thanks for posting this video. Helpful.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11501 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:04 pm to
Trump did it and people cheered. He didn't even give people any options either.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16312 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:11 pm to
It was dumb what he did and no one with a brain cheered.
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