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6.5 Creedmoor
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:42 am
Can someone shed some light on the devastation the 6.5 Creedmoor round provides as far as an exit wound goes in whitetail? I love reduced recoil and the distance the round can provide, but the last thing I want is to shoot something with that round and you have a bullet size entry and exit wound with hardly any blood trail. It seems like the round is too small and too fast to properly expand inside when it hits an animal. Thus, only leaving a small entry and exit hole. I currently shoot a 30-06 and it leaves a massive exit wound with a heavy blood trail.
I know there are multiple factors that are at play here when we are talking about blood trails, but for the sake of argument lets say it is a double lung shot with a 6.5 Creedmoor. What I am trying to avoid is buying a 6.5 and afterwards realizing that it is too light and too fast to be practical for 0-150 yard shots that we typically deal with in Louisiana.
I know there are multiple factors that are at play here when we are talking about blood trails, but for the sake of argument lets say it is a double lung shot with a 6.5 Creedmoor. What I am trying to avoid is buying a 6.5 and afterwards realizing that it is too light and too fast to be practical for 0-150 yard shots that we typically deal with in Louisiana.
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:05 am to OGD
A double lung shot is a double lung shot. 6.5 has been used for elk and moose before.
I just bought one and will be hunting with it all week, I’ll update you with how it does on a whitetail.
I was also skeptical but after researching enough i determined it’s fine for deer and antelope and such. It can kill an elk, but I’ll size up when I get to that point.
I just bought one and will be hunting with it all week, I’ll update you with how it does on a whitetail.
I was also skeptical but after researching enough i determined it’s fine for deer and antelope and such. It can kill an elk, but I’ll size up when I get to that point.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:05 am to OGD
I use the Hornady 143 Gr ELDX Precision Hunter round. Killed a few whitetail with it. All shoulder shots and all but one hit the ground right away. The one that didn’t ran 40 yds. It is a great whitetail round. Very accurate and shoots like a laser.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:06 am to OGD
Definitely not reduced recoil , but for that distance I take my 35 whelen . If hit they are going down . And it is considered primitive . Longer shots I pack my 270 .
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:08 am to OGD
Ohhh you done messed up now hoss!!!!
Buy a blood trailing dog!!!!!!!!!
Prepare your anus for the chewing you will receive!!
I don’t have one so I can’t really can’t tell you what to expect with most of the ammo that people are using in them (match,boat tail hollow points)
I do have a ton of experience with 130/150 grain bonded or solid copper bullets doing somewhere between 2500-3000 FPS. If you get a 6.5 and shoot solid or bonded 140gr bullets and shoot double lung shots I would just about bet the cost of the rifle that you will be happy with exits and blood trails that you see.
Buy a blood trailing dog!!!!!!!!!
Prepare your anus for the chewing you will receive!!
I don’t have one so I can’t really can’t tell you what to expect with most of the ammo that people are using in them (match,boat tail hollow points)
I do have a ton of experience with 130/150 grain bonded or solid copper bullets doing somewhere between 2500-3000 FPS. If you get a 6.5 and shoot solid or bonded 140gr bullets and shoot double lung shots I would just about bet the cost of the rifle that you will be happy with exits and blood trails that you see.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:20 am to OGD
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What I am trying to avoid is buying a 6.5 and afterwards realizing that it is too light and too fast to be practical for 0-150 yard shots that we typically deal with in Louisiana.
You have the perfect round already it sounds like
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I currently shoot a 30-06 and it leaves a massive exit wound with a heavy blood trail.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:38 am to OGD
The 6.5 CM is not significantly faster than your 30-06 at practical hunting distances, and it’s slower than a lot of other popular hunting calibers. Speed is not what separates it from the pack, it’s effectively loading and stabilizing very high BC bullets.
A lot of those bullets were made for ringing steel at 1000 yards, not retaining enough energy to punch through the exit. Forget about BC that you will never realize the benefit of and shoot high quality hunting bullets, and it will reliably exit.
A lot of those bullets were made for ringing steel at 1000 yards, not retaining enough energy to punch through the exit. Forget about BC that you will never realize the benefit of and shoot high quality hunting bullets, and it will reliably exit.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:54 am to OGD
Choose a bullet meant for deer, probably in the 120-140 grain range and it will work perfectly. It’s a good deer round.
P.S. mandatory I hate it message.
P.S. mandatory I hate it message.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/26/20 at 10:55 am to OGD
It’s not all that fast. It’s a mild round shooting a sleek bullet.
We’ve shot em near and far with our 257 WBYs and have no problems. And they have a bit more giddy up than the Cripplemore.
We’ve shot em near and far with our 257 WBYs and have no problems. And they have a bit more giddy up than the Cripplemore.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 11:38 am to OGD
Just get a 6.5 PRC and be done with it.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 11:50 am to Rize
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Just get a 6.5 PRC and be done with it.
On my Christmas list.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 12:04 pm to OGD
Contrary to popular belief, the letters/number stamped on the bottom of the case have little to nothing to do with the damage done to game by the projectile.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/26/20 at 12:34 pm to OGD
The bullet construction is what determines how a bullet performs.
If you buy one that is designed to pass through then you will get most likely get a pass through.
If you buy one that is designed to pass through then you will get most likely get a pass through.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:19 pm to OGD
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It seems like the round is too small
Not it's not. It's a 0.264" diameter bullet. For comparison, the venerable 270 Win uses a 0.277" diameter bullet.
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too fast to properly expand inside when it hits an animal.
It's not really that fast. Look at the ballistic tables yourself instead of listening to the 6.5 CM "experts" (of which there are many) spouting out disinformation. Like someone said, it's actually a moderate velocity round. Ballistically, it's pretty much identical to the 260 Rem and modern 6.5x55 Swede loads.
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Thus, only leaving a small entry and exit hole.
Any deer hunting load that performs well in the 260 Rem or 6.5 Swede is going to be a good deer hunting round in the 6.5 CM. Honestly, I can't keep up w/ the "new" bullets/loads for the 6.5 CM; it seems like there's a new one every week.
quote:The 6.5 CM will be an improvement over your 30-06 only in that the recoil will be less and at extreme ranges, certain of it's loads may shoot a little flatter. The wounding characteristic of loads in the modern 6.5x55 and 260 Rem will be similar in the 6.5 CM. I've got a 260 Rem handgun that I really like for deer hunting. Since its 15" barrel doesn't generate as much velocity as that of a rifle, I like the lighter 120 grain bullets. Like the 260 Rem, the 6.5 CM is a fine deer hunting round.....when appropriate bullets are used
I currently shoot a 30-06 and it leaves a massive exit wound with a heavy blood trail.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:00 pm to OGD
My cousin will be using one this weekend. He is bringing his trailing dog and I'm bringing both of mine just in case.
Eta: I think it gets a bad rep because flatbills buy them and automatically think they are a sniper that can take 400 yard shots.
Eta: I think it gets a bad rep because flatbills buy them and automatically think they are a sniper that can take 400 yard shots.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:31 pm to OGD
Just get a 308 and everything you shoot will die shortly afterwards. It's one the most accurate rounds in history. Easy to get bullets or to reload for.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:52 pm to OGD
Skip the fad. You already have a deer rifle in 30.06. There is no reason to buy a 6.5cm other than that you want one.
260 Remington, 6.5x55 Swede are the same thing and have been around longer. The 6.5x55 is a hunting cartridge. Ammo might be tough to find in stores though .
308 and 7mm-08 are better suited for hunting.
The 6.5cm is nothing but a fad. It will wear off in a few years and you'll be asking about the newest cartridge made that's probably been around for a century just like the 6.5cm
That 3006 is a better cartridge all day.
260 Remington, 6.5x55 Swede are the same thing and have been around longer. The 6.5x55 is a hunting cartridge. Ammo might be tough to find in stores though .
308 and 7mm-08 are better suited for hunting.
The 6.5cm is nothing but a fad. It will wear off in a few years and you'll be asking about the newest cartridge made that's probably been around for a century just like the 6.5cm
That 3006 is a better cartridge all day.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:03 pm to OGD
The faster a round the better the expansion providing the correct bullet is used.
6.5, .308, 30-06, 270, etc are all more than adequate killing large game. Shot placement is everything
6.5, .308, 30-06, 270, etc are all more than adequate killing large game. Shot placement is everything
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:09 pm to OGD
My personal experience from use the last 2 years.
Very accurate round, fun to shoot. Have killed deer with it, and lost deer with it. I think if you are shooting many shots inside of 200yds, there are better options. If most your shots are > 200yds, it will be great. The 2 deer i lost were 100-135yds. Small drops of blood for 50 or so yards then nothing. Put dog on the deer, nothing. Never found them. Both were with eldx ammo. Recovered one buck I shot at 100ish yards with barnes ammo. Almost 300yd track job, minimal blood.
The one deer i had drop on a dime was with the eldx at around 250yds. Not saying everyone will have same results as me, but i just feel like the round is too damn hot for shorter ranges and doesnt get enough expansion before exit. I gave it a fair chance, but its back in the safe for deer. 308 and 270wsm will remain my deer rifles
Very accurate round, fun to shoot. Have killed deer with it, and lost deer with it. I think if you are shooting many shots inside of 200yds, there are better options. If most your shots are > 200yds, it will be great. The 2 deer i lost were 100-135yds. Small drops of blood for 50 or so yards then nothing. Put dog on the deer, nothing. Never found them. Both were with eldx ammo. Recovered one buck I shot at 100ish yards with barnes ammo. Almost 300yd track job, minimal blood.
The one deer i had drop on a dime was with the eldx at around 250yds. Not saying everyone will have same results as me, but i just feel like the round is too damn hot for shorter ranges and doesnt get enough expansion before exit. I gave it a fair chance, but its back in the safe for deer. 308 and 270wsm will remain my deer rifles
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