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re: 6.5 Creedmoor
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:27 pm to brightside878
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:27 pm to brightside878
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And the CM is far from a fad since the military’s picked it up
They didn't pick it up for hunting deer. They picked it up to shoot paper.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:28 pm to brightside878
It is, but they have thin jackets and soft cores. They are soft bullets. They might do well in the higher sectional density loads than what I had, but general internet consensus is they shoot well but tear apart easily.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:31 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The more you know
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:33 pm to saintsfan1977
They picked it up to shoot people and so habe a shite load of LE agencies. Look up a ballistics chart of the 6.5 vs the .308 then revisit the conversation.
The 2-3 lbs less recoil is enough to push a lot of people over the edge. You can shoot it out of a mountain rifle and still quite pleasant
The 2-3 lbs less recoil is enough to push a lot of people over the edge. You can shoot it out of a mountain rifle and still quite pleasant
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:45 pm to Capt ST
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Buddy just got one and used it in TX last week. No exit wound on deer. But it was a heart shot and it only went 30 or so yards. But he said not a drop of blood.
I'm curious, what load he was using? Like i said earlier, there are a lot of new rounds for the CM. I worry that some hunters may be using loads/bullets that better suited for target than game. I would've expected a conventional 6.5 bullet at usual velocities to exit the deer your buddy killed.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:55 pm to saintsfan1977
The army is in the business of shooting paper?
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:59 pm to brightside878
quote:
Look up a ballistics chart of the 6.5 vs the .308 then revisit the conversation.
Apples to oranges. The 308 has a bigger sectional density so the BC will be lower.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 2:22 am to jimbeam
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The army is in the business of shooting paper?
The 6.5cm was designed as a long range target shooter, not a deer gun. Someone sold the military on it due to the ballistics.
If you want accuracy for punching paper at long range like a 1000yds, 6mm Dasher and 6.5x47 Lapua will do it better. Hunting at 600 to 1000yds use the 7mm's or step up to the 300s.
The 6.5cm is not better than a 243 or 308 for deer hunting. Recoil doesn't even matter because you only get one shot.
It would be fun to have just to shoot but I wouldn't buy one for deer hunting. A regular 270 is plenty and cheap. Its the newest fad.
Everyone thinks they can shoot far with it. I've seen plenty guys at the range that couldn't shoot a soft ball at 100yds. If you can't shoot, no gun will fix that that.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 4:20 am to saintsfan1977
I wasn’t impressed with the performance on deer till I switched to the Federal 130gr Berger bullet. Actually picked some up to try from Walmart after I wasn’t impressed with the 143 gr Hornady performance(ELDx). Grouped better than expected, and shot a nice buck at 245yrds and blew a huge exit hole after hitting off shoulder. Really like that set-up if hunting
Posted on 11/27/20 at 5:59 am to CamdenTiger
I shoot the 129 grain Hornady American white tail. Zero issues. People just like to hate on the round.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:57 am to saintsfan1977
These threads are always awesome. Its the people that have an irrational hate for an inanimate object vs the people that own it and dont really care.
The OPs question was answered on the first page.
Nobody cares if you dont like the caliber.
The OPs question was answered on the first page.
Nobody cares if you dont like the caliber.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 7:00 am to saintsfan1977
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If you want accuracy for punching paper at long range like a 1000yds, 6mm Dasher and 6.5x47 Lapua will do it better
Is that why you see so many of these in f class matches? I’ve seen the dasher a couple of times. Never seen a 6.5x47
Most are 6mm creedmoor, 6br, 6.5 creedmoor
Posted on 11/27/20 at 7:42 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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I'm curious, what load he was using?
I had the same experience using the 129g hornady round. Shot two bucks around 150-200 yards in the boiler room and no exit wound. Not a drop of blood. Ended up recovering both 70 yards or so from where I shot.
I switched to the 140g Berger hybrid round this year and had better success, but I’m thinking about selling the 6.5 and picking up a 7mm-08.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:00 am to UpToPar
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switched to the 140g Berger hybrid
Another rebranded target bullet.
Use a good proven hunting bullet (interbond, accubond, partition, barnes x, etc) and you'll have good results. The swede built its reputation in Europe as a moose round with heavy round nose soft points at close range.
It isn't the caliber. Stay away from all the long range crap and you'll have an excellent deer rifleml
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Use a good proven hunting bullet (interbond, accubond, partition, barnes x, etc) and you'll have good results.
I was using a 129gr hornady interlock and went 0-2 on exit wounds. The gun shoots well, but I just can’t afford to not have a blood trail where I hunt.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:20 am to UpToPar
It seems like hornady bullets are across the board lighter construction than other brands. My small sample size has been they never exit as reliably as others of the same weight. I had good luck with 140 interlocks on several deer though.
But still, 129gr is light for the caliber. 140 is the bare minimum IMO. 6.5's have always been liked for the great penetration you get from the long bullets without big gun recoil, not necessarily the flat trajectory.
I just looked at the offerings on midway. Yall have a way better selection of stuff than I ever had with the swede. Lots of long range and match type stuff as well. Avoid all that stuff. Federal blue box 140gr would be my starting point, or any nosler partition. If you want long range, stick to the barnes stuff. I also saw swift A frame, accubond (normal, not LR), Federal fusion, and core locks all in 140gr. All of that should exit nearly 100%
But still, 129gr is light for the caliber. 140 is the bare minimum IMO. 6.5's have always been liked for the great penetration you get from the long bullets without big gun recoil, not necessarily the flat trajectory.
I just looked at the offerings on midway. Yall have a way better selection of stuff than I ever had with the swede. Lots of long range and match type stuff as well. Avoid all that stuff. Federal blue box 140gr would be my starting point, or any nosler partition. If you want long range, stick to the barnes stuff. I also saw swift A frame, accubond (normal, not LR), Federal fusion, and core locks all in 140gr. All of that should exit nearly 100%
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:03 am to saintsfan1977
quote:Well that's not true at all.
308 has a bigger sectional density
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:05 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
If I don’t sell it, I’ll do some more experimenting next year.
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:09 am to OGD
Firstly. It isn't really THAT fast. It's not mean to be a speed round. It's about efficiency.
Secondly, they can design bullets to expand at any speed and weight etc.
Thirdly, 6.5 wouldn't have taken off like a rocketship if it didn't kill deer very dead.
Fourthly, it is PLENTY of gin to kill deer
Secondly, they can design bullets to expand at any speed and weight etc.
Thirdly, 6.5 wouldn't have taken off like a rocketship if it didn't kill deer very dead.
Fourthly, it is PLENTY of gin to kill deer
Posted on 11/27/20 at 9:12 am to 257WBY
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257 WBYs
Perfect example. If fast and sleek didn't expand in deer, this would be a HORRIBLE deer round.
Buy alas, it's not.
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