re: 300 Winchester vs 7mm. Best single rifle for hunting in North America

Just a really dumb comment by me again. I really appreciate all the responses and all have been helpful.

Jesus the knowledge contained on this board is so much it might be able to warm a cup of coffee!

OK that was a bit not necessary. Seriously, I've been overwhelmed by the number of great posts in this thread.

So I guess the correct answer is I need more than one.

Unless you randomly fall into a great deal for a 7mag I don’t get it over a 30-06. Very similar but more bullet options and availability for the 30-06. .300 gives you a little bigger bullets and velocity so that would make some sense. As others have said though, if you want a true magnum I don’t see why you don’t go .338 if you want to go big.

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1000 yards is over a half mile away

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I really don't think people comprehend how far 500 yards is, much less 1000.

Some mom on the LA deer hunters Facebook page posted her 11 yr old daughter with a great buck that she shot at 500 yards. Drilled it in the vitals, first shot. Then dad pops into the comments saying he has a rifle sighted in specifically for 500 yard shots.

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really don't think people comprehend how far 500 yards is, much less 1000.

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And many never practice more than a few shots to check the scope in October. They then make 400 yard bang flops on a shitty lease where you can't see more than 200 yards in any direction anywhere.

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don't want to go big. I want to go versatile, accurate and fun.

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Then you shouldn’t be going with either of your options, that was my entire point. 30-06 makes a lot more sense for you in that area. Or go with something more .270 sized in the 125-150 gr bullet size as it will be more fun, cheaper, lighter gun, and less recoil. As said before .243, .270, and 30-06 are the most popular ammo to be found and can be found almost anywhere if ammo is available. Those rounds are perfectly fine for 99% of people. Outside of that it’s either nostalgia, wanting something different, or the rare occasion where a more finely tweaked round makes some sense. But it’s not like 1000 yard rifle competitions only have 1 unanimous round.

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I really don't think people comprehend how far 500 yards is, much less 1000. Some mom on the LA deer hunters Facebook page posted her 11 yr old daughter with a great buck that she shot at 500 yards. Drilled it in the vitals, first shot. Then dad pops into the comments saying he has a rifle sighted in specifically for 500 yard shots.

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Lol “ I’m telling you it was 450-500 and he was bumping does zigzagging through the woods and I put it right on the top of the shoulder and squeezed it off and he dropped like a ton of bricks”!!!

I wish I had all the deer sausage from the deer I have heard die that way!!!

Could not agree more 257wby
Will do the job without question
Robert Kleinguenther favorite cal.
Also, I hunt elk with 300wby shooting 150 gr dropped 3 Elk with it. Great round.

He spends a lot on glass. He calculates windage. He sits up a shooting bench and rarely do any deer walk away that he shoots at.

He doesn't have to track deer like an archer does. His deer fall.

As a farmer and landowner he has a nuisance permit too. I don't know how many deer he kills a year but it is quite a few. He gives them to his employees and poor people in his town. None go to waste. The population is still huge on his farms.

He shoots thousands of rounds at targets---literally thousands. He might be OCD in his reloading and record keeping.

Where he lives he has little else to do and he has become very proficient at long distance shooting.

He tells me if the recoil is just right and he is very still he can see the impact of the bullet when the scope settles after the shot.

There is not a round mentioned here that he has not shot. He has several custom made guns that he has spent tens of thousands of dollars on. 30-06 is his favorite round.