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re: Would you climb Mt Everest if someone paid your way?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:57 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:57 pm to theantiquetiger
Hell yeah. Unless you have kids I just don't see why you wouldn't if you were physically capable of doing so.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:59 pm to theantiquetiger
Took a cable car in Chamonix, France to the peak of Aguille du Midi - the closest you can get to the tip of Mont Blanc without actually climbing the damn thing. The elevation was a little less than 1300 ft IIRC and it turned me into mush. I was delirious, put of breath, freezing, giggly, and nauseous.
Now I'm a S. La baw so that clearly isn't my speed, but I don't think I could survive just sitting on my arse at Everest base camp (5k ft higher
), much less climbing the dam thing.
And no I'm not fat.
Now I'm a S. La baw so that clearly isn't my speed, but I don't think I could survive just sitting on my arse at Everest base camp (5k ft higher
And no I'm not fat.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:01 pm to PaperPaintball92
I'd do it as long as work was ok with the extended time off.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:01 pm to theantiquetiger
“How many people have summited Mt. Everest” is one of the most popular questions after “How Much Does it Cost to Climb Mt. Everest?“. The short answer is that 4,469 different people have summited Everest 7,646 times."
The next most popular question is “How many people have died on Everest?” 282 people have died on Mt. Everest. Deaths range from zero to 18 in 2015 due to the earthquake.
Sure, people die on Everest every year and it's dangerous and something out of your control can kill you but the chances of anything bad happening are very very low.
Hell, a 73 year old Japanese woman climbed Everest a few years ago.
The next most popular question is “How many people have died on Everest?” 282 people have died on Mt. Everest. Deaths range from zero to 18 in 2015 due to the earthquake.
Sure, people die on Everest every year and it's dangerous and something out of your control can kill you but the chances of anything bad happening are very very low.
Hell, a 73 year old Japanese woman climbed Everest a few years ago.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:02 pm to theantiquetiger
There was a group of guys from Nola who climed a few years back, Jesuit guy's. Some of you may know or know of. I don't think it cost $150k though.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:03 pm to ellishughtiger
quote:chicken?
There was a group of guys from Nola who climed a few years back, Jesuit guy's
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:03 pm to theantiquetiger
quote:
Would you climb Mt Everest if someone paid your way?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Hell yes!
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:10 pm to SuperSaint
I think the guys you are talking about didn't climb Everest.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:16 pm to theantiquetiger
quote:It is more in the $40,000-$70,000 range to climb Everest. That's expedition style mind you. However, no reputable establishment will allow you to join their team without proving yourself on other mountains above 6-7k meters. So, now you're having to add in that cost as well. To give you an idea, Mountain Madness, one of the most well known groups, charges $67,000, while 7 Summits, another well known group, charges $42,000. This is all just for your trip, you have to get there, to Katmandu, and get all of your equipment as well.
I think it is something like $150K to climb Everest.
quote:While it isn't considered a highly technical climb, there are "mountain skills" that are required for the climb. Proper use of fixed ropes, use of high-altitude equipment, and a lot of general mountain expedition knowledge is required to successfully climb it.
I don't think there is much (or any) rock climbing associated with it. I think it's just walking up a big arse, dangerous hill, with a bunch of sketchy passes you must transverse. (I maybe wrong here)
Because of recent events and global public backlash several key changes have occurred. Neither Nepal/India nor China will by law grant climbing permits to anyone under 16 (including the sherpa people) and realistically, you're not getting one if you're under 21. Also, because of the recent high number of deaths, China has become very restrictive in their granting of permits to foreigners. It is no longer the free-for-all that it was in the 80s and 90s.
Furthermore, there are now laws requiring certain payments to and insurances for the local Sherpa people who work on the mountain. This almost assures that you're not going to be able to just show up and get to work - you'll have to be with a larger expedition to get the assistance you need.
Lastly theres the consideration of danger. While advances in technology and the shift towards only allowing a more skilled clientele have decreased the likelihood of death, there is still an very high level of risk associated with Everest. The icefalls are the "deadliest" part of the mountain. Those deaths have almost nothing to do with skill and almost everything to do with luck.
The altitude is what kills most outside of the ice falls. We're not just talking about being a little out of breath here. We're talking about people who are in superb shape having to spend hours, literally hours, to walk a couple of hundred yards. Summit day itself is typically 20-30 hours of extreme physical exertion. It is estimated that on summit day people burn between 12,000 and 15,000 calories. To put that into perspective, the average marathoner burns about 3,000 calories in a race. And you can't eat, at least not enough to replace those calories. Even if you could force that much food into your stomach, above 8,000 meters your digestive system just about shuts down. It is called the death zone because no matter what you do, your body starts dying up there. It is just a matter of how long can you survive in that area.
Interesting anecdote - several years ago a Chinese billionaire's son died while attempting Everest. He was several hundred meters from the summit. The father hired a team of over a dozen experienced climbers, all of whom had summited Everest before, to retrieve his son's body. They managed to move it less than 100 meters before giving up and returning to camp. You are as much on your own up there as astronauts are in space. There is no rescue, period.
Sure, for a couple of decades there it was "accessible" to just about anyone who could afford it. We've heard the stories of incompetent morons paying gobs of cash to get someone to haul their dumbasses up the mountain. And then there was the idiot parents that essentially carried their 12 year old up the mountain just so they could claim that their son was the youngest ever. But now because of legal, logistical, and ethical concerns, those days are over and it has once again become a climber's only mountain.
All that being said, I'd go in a heartbeat if I were giving the opportunity.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:18 pm to theantiquetiger
Mount Everest? No; not my thing. A trip to the ISS? frick yeah.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:26 pm to SlapahoeTribe
Awesome info. Solid post
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:41 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Awesome info. Solid post
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:50 pm to theantiquetiger
I found climbs for around 50k. I want to do it, but can't take that much time off work.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:06 am to GO TIGERS GO
I'm not climbing anything where dead bodies are used as landmarks. Old "green boots" still chilling up there.
ETA- much respect to the people who make it to the top. Who can take off 2 months to climb a mountain?
ETA- much respect to the people who make it to the top. Who can take off 2 months to climb a mountain?
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 12:09 am
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:09 am to theantiquetiger
I hate the cold and dont want to die.
Id rather sit in a rocket and let it do all the work
Id rather sit in a rocket and let it do all the work
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:27 am to jdd48
quote:
Everest is not known to be a super technical climb, but it's quite a bit more than just strolling up an extremely large hill.
This. There are sections where you have to do ice climbing up some pretty steep walls - not completely vertical ones but steep enough that it's more vertical than horizontal.
That said, if you have enough money to spend on extra equipment and Sherpas then they'll practically carry you to the top.
The price with an established company is actually more like $75k but they're expecting you to be an experienced climber who doesn't need to be coddled. LINK
OTOH, you can customize the trip and it can cost considerably more. Like $130k or so. LINK At this link they list specific guides, I climbed Rainier with Billy Nugent a few years ago and at the time he was leading Denali trips, good to see he's doing Everest now. Great guy and damn does he know ropes.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:24 am to foshizzle
Everest has always been an interesting topic to me mostly because I have wondered at what price would an excursion to the peak be worth? I think it has a greater value, not because it's the tallest peak or the most dangerous, but because at that altitude you can only get there by foot. I won't consider halo jumping onto the peak to count, because that would just be a death wish. I do think that when we have a practical and widespread VTOL-type flyer that is capable of ascending to the peak and back through the wide range of atmospherics with zero issue, it will lose some value of exclusivity as only being assessable by mountain climbing.
I do think space will be much more assessable to many and safe in the next 30 years before this situation with Everest occurs, so I'll probably continue to consider Everest the top challenge that can be done for a human at this time. If you want scale, just consider Olympus Mons on Mars. It is much bigger than Everest, and every foot of it exist in almost zero pressure and no oxygen. While I'm on topic, I might as well digress and leave a thought here than I have also considered. There will eventually be a time when anywhere on earth will be assessable by some type of vehicle regardless of atmospheric pressure or conditions. And once this happens we will have likely figured out how to operate in any type of planetary conditions, within living reason, for planets that we will colonize.
A fascinating thought about space is the amount of things that is capable between 1 atmosphere and a vacuum. Literally a few millimeters of metal keep this boundary separated in space. Now imagine the intense level of pressure acquired by simply going underwater, or by somehow traveling into a gas giant planet without being smashed into a ball of carbon. This makes space seem trivial.
I do think space will be much more assessable to many and safe in the next 30 years before this situation with Everest occurs, so I'll probably continue to consider Everest the top challenge that can be done for a human at this time. If you want scale, just consider Olympus Mons on Mars. It is much bigger than Everest, and every foot of it exist in almost zero pressure and no oxygen. While I'm on topic, I might as well digress and leave a thought here than I have also considered. There will eventually be a time when anywhere on earth will be assessable by some type of vehicle regardless of atmospheric pressure or conditions. And once this happens we will have likely figured out how to operate in any type of planetary conditions, within living reason, for planets that we will colonize.
A fascinating thought about space is the amount of things that is capable between 1 atmosphere and a vacuum. Literally a few millimeters of metal keep this boundary separated in space. Now imagine the intense level of pressure acquired by simply going underwater, or by somehow traveling into a gas giant planet without being smashed into a ball of carbon. This makes space seem trivial.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 2:26 am
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