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re: Would a high-speed rail system work in the US?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:58 am to Ohiotigerfan
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:58 am to Ohiotigerfan
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To run at a the high speeds you need dedicated track not a shared track.
And a well-maintained track with lots of cross ties.
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:00 am to BottomlandBrew
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It's socialism" crowd
That’s what pisses me off the most
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:01 am to BottomlandBrew
It's always turned into an economic boondoggle every time it's been tried. The LA-SF line has been a mess and is going to take 30 years and billions to finish if it ever actually gets done.
The best we have is the Acela between NY and DC and it's insanely overpriced and barely faster than the regional trains. It's a joke compared to Europe.
The best we have is the Acela between NY and DC and it's insanely overpriced and barely faster than the regional trains. It's a joke compared to Europe.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:04 am to NolaTiger52
Don't get why three of the routes go into Mexico.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:07 am to NolaTiger52
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You could have a 100 mile commute every morning that would take no time. It would be more convenient than flying, or driving long distances.
I think the idea of high speed rail for commuters is vastly oversimplified here. If you are commuting, you have to get from a specific location (home) to a specific location (work) as efficiently and consistently as possible. Being able to travel 100 miles quickly is great, except that it means few stops out of necessity.
Getting from your home to the station is easy enough, provided there’s sufficient parking. But what about getting to work from the station? That requires you to either work within walking distance of the station, Uber/cab, or use other public transportation. Walking is fine but is limited to a fairly short distance. The cost of Uber/cabs would eat into any cost savings fairly quickly, de-incentivizing the high speed rail for the commuter. Local public transportation in most southern cities is awful, and not time-efficient.
Commuter rail sounds great until you start digging into the details.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:07 am to UGATiger26
It's plainly obvious many in this thread have never ridden a high speed rail in other countries.
They are very efficient and fast as frick. The one on Japan goes 200+ mph. You tell me you'd rather drive from Nola to Houston than take a bullet train that would take less than 2 hours?
But oh no, it may have to actually stop for 15-20 min in Baton Rouge before you get there. Not worth it.
They are very efficient and fast as frick. The one on Japan goes 200+ mph. You tell me you'd rather drive from Nola to Houston than take a bullet train that would take less than 2 hours?
But oh no, it may have to actually stop for 15-20 min in Baton Rouge before you get there. Not worth it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:07 am to NolaTiger52
My only question would be, why is there not one that goes from Miami to Seattle? There is one that goes from San Diego to New York, why not the opposite direction?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:11 am to NolaTiger52
Pretty sure these are existing Amtrak routes. I know the Nola, Bham, Atl route certainly is.
I like the idea of trains and public transit in general. I like cities where it appears to be well run like Chicago or Salt Lake City.
I like the idea of trains and public transit in general. I like cities where it appears to be well run like Chicago or Salt Lake City.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:12 am to NolaTiger52
Yes, it would work.
No, it will never happen because we're too stupid for anything that beneficial.
No, it will never happen because we're too stupid for anything that beneficial.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:13 am to NolaTiger52
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It would be more convenient than flying,
How? The inconvenient aspect of flying is security. Do you think security would be easier for a train? At least in a plane once you’re off the ground you need a SAM to take it out. A train can be taken out all along that commute.
And how would the train be any faster?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:14 am to rintintin
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It's plainly obvious many in this thread have never ridden a high speed rail in other countries.
I've ridden trains in the UK, France, Spain, and Italy. So I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Trains don't pull in and out of major hubs like London like they would in a podunk stop-over like Alnmouth.
If I'm using the OPs map as the proposal for this idea, it looks like every stop would be in a fairly major city. Potentially hundreds of people would need to board and de-board, staff changed over, supplies restocked, etc.
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You tell me you'd rather drive from Nola to Houston than take a bullet train that would take less than 2 hours?
Yes, probably. It would have to be cheap as frick for me to not just drive my own car and have my own transportation once I reach Houston. Plus, you're only accounting for the actual trip time. You're not factoring in the time it would take commuting to and from the stations, parking, and all the other logistics.
I'm not anti-train. I just realize that comparing the situation between the U.S. and other countries is apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 8:34 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:15 am to SeaBass23
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I’ve seen it work in Japan and Europe
There’s a dramatic difference between these places and the US. Distance
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:16 am to Aubie Spr96
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Pretty sure these are existing Amtrak routes. I know the Nola, Bham, Atl route certainly is.
Which wouldn't work in this scenario unless you build dedicated rail for said train.
Amtrak uses the freight lines' rails. The freight trains have right of way over the Amtrak trains, so if there are freight trains coming Amtrak stays in the side rail until they're done passing.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:18 am to xxTIMMYxx
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Yea, the train system in Europe is awesome
Until you catch SARS-Cov-2
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:25 am to NolaTiger52
Cullen Bohannon could build it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:25 am to NolaTiger52
Of course it would. Airlines would be pissed though
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:33 am to frankthetank
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guarantee I could commute 100 miles in my vehicle (including time stuck in traffic) faster that it would take you to travel to the train station, find parking, get on the train, stop at 5 small citities along the way, get to your station, find an uber/cab, and commute to your office.
Right. Sometimes I rather drive to DFW, than deal with the hassle of air travel. Also... risk of delays and cancellations.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:35 am to NolaTiger52
Only would've worked IF when the Interstate system was built that freight along w/ high speed (or transit dedicated rail at the time) at the same time parallel to the roads themselves.
Now, there are just too many roadblocks, physical + legal.
We'll have efficient self driving cars before we'd ever have efficient enough speed rail in place.
Now, there are just too many roadblocks, physical + legal.
We'll have efficient self driving cars before we'd ever have efficient enough speed rail in place.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:36 am to NolaTiger52
May work on east coast. But US is spread out as a whole.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 8:37 am to NolaTiger52
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Would a high-speed rail system work in the US?
The answer is Hyperloop.
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