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re: Would a high-speed rail system work in the US?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:35 am to
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:35 am to
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You could have a 100 mile commute every morning that would take no time


With the logistics involved it wouldn’t be much of any faster than driving
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:36 am to
Would it really be meant for daily commute, though?
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:36 am to
No. This technology would be out the window long before they finished the project.
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2544 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:37 am to
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Would it really be meant for daily commute, though?


No. For the reasons I stated.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:38 am to
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I guarantee I could commute 100 miles in my vehicle (including time stuck in traffic) faster that it would take you to travel to the train station, find parking, get on the train, stop at 5 small citities along the way, get to your station, find an uber/cab, and commute to your office.


Exactly.

Trains aren't going to compete with airlines. Nobody going on a vacation or serious business is going to consider taking a train from DC to San Francisco. Even traveling 200 mph non-stop in a straight line would take 15 hours. Factor in stops, commuting to and from final destinations, etc. and you're talking about literally an entire day of traveling.

The vast majority of demand for high-speed rail would be for regional travel (Atlanta-Charlotte-Charleston). The competition would be people just deciding to drive their own car.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 8:39 am
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:39 am to
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If you take a train into Atlanta, you're pretty much stuck there unless you get a cab. The MARTA system is damn near worthless for anything other than event/work commuting.


Atlanta really does need to step up their game.

Also a lot of people do not want trains to work for whatever reason.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:39 am to
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Roundtrip southwest flight from msy to lax is like $300 or less. Seems cheap to me


It’s cheap in relation to airliner costs, but $300 for a single ticket round trip is not cheap.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39272 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:39 am to
I've always wondered how this would effect real estate. Someone could now work in San Francisco without having to pay for San Francisco. I still wish we would do one for Baton Rouge to Nola
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:39 am to
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I like how the map makers purposely avoided the Land Mass with their system.



The upper mountain west wouldn't be feasible even if this was a sensible plan.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:40 am to
If mf Little Rock gets one over Shreveport that’s bullshite.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
2134 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:43 am to
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Also a lot of people do not want trains to work for whatever reason

A few reasons. People are so fixated on cars and planes. Americans are stubborn, and don’t really like change. I’ve seen a few people (not on here) call it “communist” just because they have trains in Europe
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:43 am to
Don't see a reason to go to Mexico
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22881 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:43 am to
No beacuse the US will never invest in public transportation like Europe and Asia do.
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:44 am to
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I think the idea is to only stop in major cities. Like NOLA to Houston

Bless your heart. You think New Orleans is a major city....

New Orleans is a port city and it is an old city but it is not a major city.

The closest the USA has to high speed rail is Acela which operates in the northeast corridor. Dallas to Houston may support a high speed route.
There is still the previously mentioned problem is most cities don't have the public transit system sufficient to get the commuters from the train station to their offices.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:44 am to
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You don't think trains make stops in Europe?

The stops are much quicker than an Amtrack stop. It is very efficient.



Yea, the train system in Europe is awesome
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:49 am to
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You don't think trains make stops in Europe?


Most of Europe does not have high speed rail and train travel is slow AF there.

The only Europeans that use it are the poors or folks traveling short distances.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:50 am to
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You don't think trains make stops in Europe?

The stops are much quicker than an Amtrack stop. It is very efficient.


Surely you don't expect a train to pull in and out of a major city like Houston like it's a bus stop?

Stops in major cities would be at least 20-30 mins.

Small towns, sure. Not big cities spaced far apart. Too many de-boarding and boarding passengers, staff shift changes, etc.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 7:52 am
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:54 am to
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Bless your heart. You think New Orleans is a major city....


It’s the biggest city in Louisiana, ya douche.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18579 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:57 am to
It seems cool but you have to have a ton of other infrastructure to get to your final destination.

It works in Europe because they have that may train lines (as shown on the US map you posted) in countries the size of every state.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30218 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 7:57 am to
A few reasons it won't ever get started:

1) Airline and Automobile lobbyists
2) Freight train lobbyists
3) Imminent Domain
4) "It's socialism" crowd
5) Public bidding and construction process ensures major cost overruns.

Sucks, because it could be awesome.
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