re: Woman in Minnesota tried ramming ICE Officer gets unalived. NSFW

except she didn't go straight she turned the wheels all the way to the right avoiding him altogether. just forgot that part?

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He will be judged by his department and the legal system. She chose to forego that path. What else is there to critique?

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And she was never given the option to be judged by the legal system. She made mistakes, but she didn't choose death.

Whatever gray area that could legally justify his actions is separate from the moral reasonableness, necessity, or intelligence of his (and his squad's) actions.

The simple fact that he stepped aside the vehicle as it turned right and continued shooting while out of harms way, along with the fact that she was protesting non-violently before agents chose to escalate the situation, is enough for me say there is plenty to critique.

We're pretending like his choice to kill this woman was the only valid option here. If you're unable to see that and see room for critique, then you're being dishonest. I've offered up plenty of critiques of the woman's decisions that put her at risk, but that doesn't mean this outcome was even close to necessary.

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This situation that she created.

This is not an isolated incident. Have you seen how people in that city treat ICE? Any other city? They are being instigated by thousands of people daily.

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Again, are we only going to focus on the actions of one side here? Why do you think those people are showing up? Rashly deploying thousands of poorly prepared, masked men into these cities is begging for confrontation. Now, depending on your politics, you might say it's a justifiable approach for detaining undocumented criminals, but even then, you must acknowledge that it will invite protests, and if they are not prepared to handle that confrontation with professionalism and dignity for human life -- particularly with US citizens who are non-violently protesting -- then yes, they are very much creating this situation.

Personally, I'm not a fan of an authoritatively empowered overreaching government agency asserting itself recklessly without local consent and coordination in ways that directly spark tension in American communities... but that's the drama that your political leaders want to play out, so they can then reinforce their dishonest narratives. Speaking of which, tell me again where the video shows the officer getting "viciously ran over" and needing to recover in the hospital. Is it the video showing the guy walking up and down the street perfectly fine after he fired shots while next to the vehicle? Your dear leaders' statements don't match reality, bub.

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At what point in general time did this begin to decline in your estimation?

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2020-2022


ETA: there was also a significant decline in training when the TASER was introduced. It became the crutch LE relied on which lead to other areas of training being significantly reduced.

Good image. I can't tell when exactly that image was taken. It doesn't look to be right before he fired. From the multiple angles I've looked at, it looks like in each one the wheels are turned to the right before he fired.

In any case. I do believe she should still be alive. But she made some terrible decisions that day.

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In the video once she backs up she immediately goes to drive from reverse. Is not like she paused to think about the situation.

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Correct. I think that is due to her already knowing what she wanted to do. She was about to get arrested I assume? She was trying to run away from the cops like people do all of the time.

She reverses the car to the left, so she could then immediately turn the wheel to the right. That is just basic driving.
Imo, if she wanted to run the cop over, I don't see why she would be reversing the car at all, let alone turning the wheel. Is it possible I'm wrong? Of course. But that's just what I see on the video.

She went forward before she turned. Kind of a big mistake.

I don’t care that she was there. She should have been arrested. Trying to flee by running over someone was a bad idea.

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I'd really like to see what happened just prior to the video because she clearly did something that pissed them off.

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She was blocking the road. A choice she made.

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don’t care that she was there. She should have been arrested. Trying to flee by running over someone was a bad idea.

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At no point have I ever said she should have been arrested.

I will also add, that that physical arrests in the sense of how 99% of people envision it, is not how the feds handle it. When the feds arrest you they already have a warrant for you. In instances like this they document you (hence why he was filming her) then refer your information and the details to the US Attorney for prosecution.