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re: Woman in Minnesota tried ramming ICE Officer gets unalived. NSFW
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:02 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:02 pm to TexasTiger08
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:02 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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What part is inaccurate?
In both legal and journalistic ethics, there is a concept known as "false due to omission". It occurs when someone makes a statement that isn't technically untrue but leaves out pertinent details, such that there is intent to mislead.
That is exactly what is happening here, and it happens at an alarming rate in US media.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:02 pm to NawlinsTiger9
How people like you function in the world blinded by such naive stupidity is really amazing.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:03 pm to TexasTiger08
Sorry if this has already been brought up...
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:06 pm to Antonio Moss
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false due to omission
So what are they omitting specifically?
How about this - what would your headline be?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:08 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:14 pm to Kjnstkmn
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Her wheels were pointed directly at the ICE agent
While she was backing up, she turned them the other way while he was blowing her head off. This narrative is a bad reach.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:15 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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So what are they omitting specifically?
That this woman disobeyed orders and drove straight at officers with her vehicle before she was shot. She wasn't some random US Citizen justr standing on the corner before ICE executed her.
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How about this - what would your headline be?
Protestor dead after assault on ICE Officers.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:17 pm to Clark14
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While she was backing up, she turned them the other way while he was blowing her head off. This narrative is a bad reach.
You must have some super secret video that no one else has.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:19 pm to bikerack
Sounds like he should stop standing in front of vehicles.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:24 pm to Bonkers119
Why is it always the pels talk people that are the most retarded. Not only with basketball discussion but other topics as well.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:24 pm to Antonio Moss
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. She wasn't some random US Citizen justr standing on the corner before ICE executed her.
Who has suggested this in the slightest?
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Protestor dead after assault on ICE Officers.
Has that been proven? No news agency worth their salt would ever print anything with that much conjecture. It also buried the lede that the ICE officer shot the protestor.
It doesn’t sound like your issue is that the media is crafting a narrative - it sounds like your gripe is the news isn’t crafting a narrative the way you like it.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:26 pm to Antonio Moss
I leave for 10 minutes and now we’re supposed to believe the biased politically motivated media who’s done nothing but stoke the mob to commit these acts of violence against ICE….is now honestly and fairly covering yesterday’s incident.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:28 pm to Klark Kent
I was asking what the narrative was and all the guy came up with was the headline Vance was crying about
Feel free to add your own if you’d like. I’m genuinely asking where all this dishonest reporting is, aside from Noem and Trump.
Feel free to add your own if you’d like. I’m genuinely asking where all this dishonest reporting is, aside from Noem and Trump.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:29 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Who has suggested this in the slightest?
CNN
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Protestor dead after assault on ICE Officers.
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Has that been proven? No news agency worth their salt would ever print anything with that much conjecture.
Is this a serious quote?
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It also buried the lede that the ICE officer shot the protestor.
I'd be fine with "ICE kills protestor after assault on agents."
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It doesn’t sound like your issue is that the media is crafting a narrative - it sounds like your gripe is the news isn’t crafting a narrative the way you like it. :
Yeah, that's why literally no one in America trusts the traditional media in this country anymore - its because they don't create the narratives I want.
Or, more than likely, you understand what I'm saying but you belong to a group that refuses to hold anyone on their side of the aisle accountable for anything they do.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:32 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I was asking what the narrative was and all the guy came up with was the headline Vance was crying about
Yep, just a sweet little ole' U.S. Citizen, minding her own business, that ICE targeted for execution.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:34 pm to brass2mouth
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I am going to die on the hill that this incident is a direct result of poorly trained officers that we as a society allow.
Cutting funding for police must have been infuriating for you then.
This incident is the result of leftist propaganda, and blue cities refusing to help properly deal with the obstruction against federal officers simply doing their job of detaining illegals.
Look at all the group obstruction, coercion, and vilifying towards ICE and their families for simply doing their job of detaining illegals. It’s actually surprising this is the first death with the mob mentality many of the obstructionists have displayed trying to block ICE from removing illegals. It’s not the first shooting of an obstructionist in a car moving towards ICE officers. It is just the first who died.
Have the ones promoting and funding these illegal obstructions conducted safety classes on how to remain safe and legal during their protests after earlier issues with their “protesters”? If so it’s not enough as it keeps happening.
But I agree with you that ICE should be trained to start treating these types of leftist obstructionists as dangerous and a threat from the start until they leave. The leftist obstructionists are usually mindless drones who are unable to reasonably and objectively assess these situations on their own. This makes them very dangerous as they believe all the leftist propaganda without questioning any of it. They are told they are fighting Nazis like our WWII soldiers and believe it putting themselves and ICE in danger. Doing as they were told the driver and wife/girlfriend actually moved to Canada after Trump’s election before more recently moving back to the US.
I wonder if gun drawn from the start treating driver as a threat from the start and shooting at first movement instead of after being hit would the officer have been able to only disable with a shot. Instead the officer had to fire weapon while being hit by the car and partially on its hood. Faster action probably stops him from being hit and better allows the driver a chance to face obstruction charges. Good idea.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:34 pm to Antonio Moss
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Or, more than likely, you understand what I'm saying but you belong to a group that refuses to hold anyone on their side of the aisle accountable for anything they do.
I just asked a simple question man, if you interpreted all that nonsense about “standing on the corner being executed” from a single CNN headline then it seems like a you problem
And it definitely answers my question
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:35 pm to HogBalls
FAFO.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:35 pm to brass2mouth
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You’re confusing firing at a fleeing suspect to stop them and a perceived deadly threat from fear of being run over.
Not only did he not get run over, but he actually leaned over the hood of the car to get a head shot and then proceeded to shoot two mores time while next to the vehicle -- completely out of harms way.
The vehicle was clearly turned to the right away from the officer and none of her actions previously indicated she was a violent threat.
Her protest blocked traffic for 3 minutes. She waved vehicles to pass by and audibly tells the agents, "go around." In fact, one vehicle did pass in front of her, proving there was clear room for the truck to pass as well. If she was trying to "ram into" an ICE Officer as an act of "domestic terrorism," why would she wave for the truck to pass? Why didn't she just charge the vehicle right at the officer at full throttle when he walked directly in front of her from the right? Why would she back up to make room for a turn to the right?
Witnesses also say the driver was given conflicting instructions from ICE agents -- to leave or to get out of the vehicle.
Why are we only judging her actions in a tense situation and not the ICE agent's? She made a mistake by panicking when confronted. She could have chosen to not protest, but let's look at the facts -- she blocked the road for only 3 minutes and there was space to go around her when the truck pulled up -- this wasn't some huge impediment with violent intentions.
Setting aside the overall approach of sending 2000 masked amateurs into an American city without local consent or coordination and the obvious confrontational situations this would spark...the ICE agents chose to escalate the situation. They could have driven around her. They could have approached the vehicle without immediately trying to open the door to snatch her. The shooting agent could have chosen to not walk and stand in front of the vehicle, which goes against common guidelines. The agent could have gotten out of harms way (as he did) without shooting. The agents could have gotten in their truck and followed her.
Both the driver and the agents made mistakes that led to an unnecessary confrontation and escalation. If we're going to critique the woman for all of the decisions she made yesterday, we need to also critique the ICE agents, and I'd argue we need to hold them to a much higher standard than the protester.
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