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re: Why would the Gov instruct pilots to destroy staging areas for the hurricane?

Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:22 am to
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The ability to think critically has really deteriorated for a large swath of the population though.


It's terrifying. Democracy cannot survive without a population believing in the integrity of its institutions. That isn't to say all people have to believe the institutions are perfect, but they have to believe that democratic institutions have the interests of the people always at the forefront.

As the information landscape is flooded with bullshite, much of it aimed at disparaging the institutional order, democracy slowly dies.

I heard a great line yesterday, the gist of which was to say that having more information doesn't lead to having better information. In fact, too much information means more misinformation. A human eating is necessary. That doesn't mean it's healthier to eat a trough full of food every waking moment.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71094 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:28 am to
Your sentiments on critical thinking are absolutely hilarious considering your past and almost certainly your future posts on this board.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20295 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:29 am to
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hese helos in OP are likely National Guard, too.


Enlarge it and tell me what you don't see.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:30 am to
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Your sentiments on critical thinking are absolutely hilarious considering your past and almost certainly your future posts on this board.


I appreciate your opinion.
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:32 am to
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Do people really believe this? The government is ordering counter strikes against rural areas with a few thousand voters?


Try the Kool aid, it tastes great.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12846 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:57 am to
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So, why was the prop washing done?

Again, replace “prop washing” with “landing.”

Why were helicopters landing in areas full of pop-up tents and unsecured supplies? That would be a reasonable question, and I haven’t seen a definitive answer.

My guess would be some combination of:
A) Volunteers who don’t have experience dealing with helicopter operations setting up these camps, and
B) Pilots who aren’t used to working with civilian volunteers.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:58 am to
Hanlon's Razor: Don't assign malice to what can be adequately explained by incompetence/stupidity.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:05 am to
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Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:06 am to
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Hanlon's Razor: Don't assign malice to what can be adequately explained by incompetence/stupidity.



Was coming to post this.

If that helicopter was sent to destroy stuff, he failed.

My guess is the pilot saw that he rotor washed the area accidentally, and said, "oh shite, let's get outta here!"
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30466 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:39 am to
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Because the fed wants to keep these predominantly republican areas in a mess until after the election in an attempt to help the Democratic Party.



This is the result of not knowing the area and blindly repeating what others have said, at least in the context of WNC.

WNC has 8 counties significantly impacted and in 2020 those 8 counties voted just under 163,000 votes for Biden and just over 154,000 votes for Trump.

There are some more granular arguments regarding things like which areas will bounce back better in the next 3 weeks but those start to be about handfuls of votes one way or another.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2771 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:40 am to
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It's humorous that there are people out there that believe the government is capable of murdering 3000 Americans and destroying 2 iconic buildings for reasons,


Explain Fauci and Covid Vaccines. Explain the open Southern border Explain climate change supposedly caused by cow farts.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71094 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:44 am to
It's all related to the price of tea in China
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12292 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:44 am to
I'm not saying they aren't sabotaging staging sites, but.....

I was in the military for 31 years and I saw dumbasses do this many times because they weren't' paying attention.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60662 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:20 pm to
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was in the military for 31 years and I saw dumbasses do this many times because they weren't' paying attention.
other veterans are suggesting this is not normal. Interesting
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 6:11 pm to
Please point out where I said it was pilot error


And do so in less than three paragraphs
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 6:16 pm to
Probably wouldn't happen if people knew how to 5-light mark a landing zone and give something to help the pilot with windage.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18033 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 6:32 pm to
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A) Volunteers who don’t have experience dealing with helicopter operations setting up these camps

This is a real problem in disaster areas. People come in to help and they mean well but end up creating issues. Sure let’s set up some tents and help handing out supplies, seems like a reasonable thing to do until you find out it’s an LZ. And god forbid they roped off the area and told people to take their shite and gtfo because then there would be more videos of people saying fema is turning away supplies and help.
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 7:19 pm to
Do you believe these pilots, did this because they were ordered to do it?
Do you believe these pilot’s are operating without guidance?
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 7:22 pm to
Ok well said
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34241 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Ashville is a Democrat stronghold.

Well, good thing the black unmarked helicopter with the pilots wearing facial coverings was 40 miles away in Burnsville, now isnt it?
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The North Carolina National Guard says a Black Hawk helicopter crew was grounded after an incident in which they flew low over a Hurricane Helene donation and supply area, blowing over three tents and scattering items in the air.

Video of the incident surfaced after the helicopter hovered over the supply area in Burnsville on Sunday. One person who recorded the video said that the incident “seemed deliberate.”

How can you and SFP be so wrong in every post you make?
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