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re: Why the Lockdown Lost
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:52 am to Bristol Dawg
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:52 am to Bristol Dawg
I’m assuming “the top” that you’re referring to is the governor. Because Trump clearly gave power to each individual state to decide how they wanted to handle it, and did so at the very beginning.
If there’s anything that Trump fricked up on, it was a delay in response to this. We should have locked down international travel in/out like in December. I watched an interesting Condoleezza Rice interview on PBS and she said that they actually came up with a response to a pandemic threat during the Bush administration, and she said that is where Trump dropped the ball. His response was too delayed. I suspect next time we get news of something brewing in another country, there will be no delay.
Also, teaming up with Anthony Fauci. frick that fear mongering clown.
If there’s anything that Trump fricked up on, it was a delay in response to this. We should have locked down international travel in/out like in December. I watched an interesting Condoleezza Rice interview on PBS and she said that they actually came up with a response to a pandemic threat during the Bush administration, and she said that is where Trump dropped the ball. His response was too delayed. I suspect next time we get news of something brewing in another country, there will be no delay.
Also, teaming up with Anthony Fauci. frick that fear mongering clown.
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:55 am to RealityTiger
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:27 am to Centinel
As expected, just another reiterated "I don't take responsibility at all"
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:29 am to Randman
Shitty source from a shitty opinion writer practicing the Dunning Kruger effect. 
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:32 am to Bristol Dawg
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As expected, just another reiterated "I don't take responsibility at all"
So should Trump have the power to lock the country down or not?
You're talking out of both sides of your mouth like a typical proggy hypocrite.
Too chickenshit to put your actual opinion down?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:32 am to Randman
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Where in the history of medicine have we ever quarantined the healthy? In doing so we dramatically slowed the development of herd immunity. We also didn’t vaccinate our kids, get cancer screenings, and lost life-saving surgery opportunities. We likely also weakened our natural population immunity to some bugs that we will have to now rebuild.
Didn't you hear? none of the other issues that people use to die from exist anymore since the arrival of Covid-19.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:46 am to Zappas Stache
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n fact several sailors on US Naval ships have been confirmed to have gotten a second case of Covid-19.
No, in fact they probably were still positive, but the test gave a false negative. Left that part out.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:12 am to Bristol Dawg
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Our leader panicked, confided in the wrong people and avoided/displaced all leadership and responsibility. His lockdown is getting blown up now.
Revisionist history of the dishonest and willfully ignorant. Clowns like you are the ones that bought, unthinking and wholesale, into the now resigned-in-disgrace Neil Ferguson's pandemic modeling. Trump reacted early and you clowns called him a racist and giving into panic. He took more measured responses as you clowns changed narratives into full-blown TDS-fueled bed shitting. No spinning required here child, you and the Left are morons and your presidential hopes are with a senile pedophile. Sums you up quite nicely really.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:31 am to Capstone2017
quote:Definitely. I was there in the early days. We were going to audit the Fed, legalize marijuana, end the wars, and cut spending. The cut spending part was going to be difficult, but we knew it was necessary. Now its all gimme, gimme, gimme, free tuition, free healthcare, free paycheck every month, free, free, free. It's a joke.
it used to be such a great site before it became popular. I started using it in 2011, and back then it was all Ron Paul/techie libertarians. I think it started dying in 2015, and now is just a ghost of its former self.
Libertarianism was so popular at the time that the sub "EnoughLibertarianSpam" was created. Now the Libertarian subreddit is just an extension of r/politics. r/Libertarian is loving this lockdown, just pure comedy.
Reddit was once a place for professionals, in their mid 20s - late 30s, mostly sysadmins and programmers. Once it got too popular it went to shite. I fully blame AdviceAnimals for bringing in the teenagers and college kids.
Like Darth Vader, there is still some good in the pile of garbage. r/goldandblack, r/libertarianmeme and r/shitstatistssay are just about all that's left of the original Reddit.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:36 am to mmmmmbeeer
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We still aren't 100% sure that the antibodies Covid leaves behind leave people immune.
Can you explain to me why we have any concern about this when it comes to this coronavirus versus any other virus? Isn't it assumed that when you get sick, after you fight off the illness you then have antibodies that protect against the virus? Why is this virus any different? If we aren't 100% sure, are we any % sure?
I legitimately am wondering.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:40 am to Randman
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The manipulation of the economy has had a far more devastating impact on the lives of nearly every American. But if anyone noticed and asked a question, the lab coats, the media, and the failed governors would gaslight you. They would attempt to shame you for wondering how a small business you had poured your entire life into would survive.
As the owner of a small retail business that was labeled "non-essential", this is 100% accurate. We were more fortunate than others as our business and financial situation are more stable than some business owners we know. Remember, the coronavirus didn't shut down ANYTHING. The federal and state gov'ts did this.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:47 am to Odysseus32
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Can you explain to me why we have any concern about this when it comes to this coronavirus versus any other virus? Isn't it assumed that when you get sick, after you fight off the illness you then have antibodies that protect against the virus? Why is this virus any different? If we aren't 100% sure, are we any % sure?
I legitimately am wondering.
Here's a good (non-biased) read regarding the subject.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:51 am to Randman
Stopped reading here...
Not interested in anyone's opinion that can't point out the failures of the White House in this ordeal. Are they solely to blame? Of course not, but they're not immune from criticism or blame in this.
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But it wasn’t just Fauci’s fault. Inept governors running huge budget deficits tried to scapegoat their failures in financially upside-down states on the virus and simultaneously skate their way out of jams. California, Illinois, and New York were in ruinous shape prior to COVID-19. By going along with the ivory tower lab coat, by pinning blame on the orange man, and by believing their own press, these disasters in office could improve their personal standing.
Not interested in anyone's opinion that can't point out the failures of the White House in this ordeal. Are they solely to blame? Of course not, but they're not immune from criticism or blame in this.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:54 am to The Spleen
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Not interested in anyone's opinion that can't point out the failures of the White House in this ordeal.
I mean the first line of what you quoted just said "But it wasn't just Fauci's fault." Is Fauci not part or the White House in all this? Is he not the lead scientist Trump has been basing his responses on?
Sounds like the author started out of the gate with pointing out the White House's role in the overall failure of government in response to all of this.
He just placed the majority of the blame (and success) where it rightly belonged, with the state and local governments.
Certain states have handled this fairly well. Others, not so much. I'll let you figure out which is which.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:55 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Seems like a very reliable place to get news after looking at the home page.
I've never even heard of townhall, but that looks exactly like CNN.com, but for things you disagree with.
Does townhall have a news channel? Maybe we should have it on in every airport. What's the difference?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:09 am to Aubie Spr96
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Remember, the coronavirus didn't shut down ANYTHING. The federal and state gov'ts did this.
Eh, some retail businesses had shut down here in Birmingham before any government action was taken. I was at the Summit the first or second week of March and it was a ghost town with several businesses already closed.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:34 am to Centinel
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I mean the first line of what you quoted just said "But it wasn't just Fauci's fault." Is Fauci not part or the White House in all this? Is he not the lead scientist Trump has been basing his responses on?
That is some impressive mental gymnastics, even for you. Is Fauci the face of the White House? Is he the ultimate decision maker in the White House? Does he even have much authority in the White House?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:35 am to The Spleen
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Is Fauci the face of the White House? Is he the ultimate decision maker in the White House? Does he even have much authority in the White House?
Should Trump listen to his scientific experts or not?
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:35 am to OweO
quote:You continue to be the biggest dumbass on this board. TD is so much better when you're not here posting dumb shite that you know nothing about, making up your BS stories or getting on your political soap box.
OweO
frick you're annoying.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:49 am to Randman
The original purpose of the lockdown was to give hospitals time to prepare for the onslaught. That happened.
Then the goal posts started to move. It’s the nature of government to grow and what we’re seeing are attempts by some bodies to hold onto the power they gained over the citizenry.
“Controlling the virus” and “preventing deaths” are the slogans being used now to justify the continued lockdown. They’re not reasonable but are emotion-driven. That’s why they’re getting so much play.
Then the goal posts started to move. It’s the nature of government to grow and what we’re seeing are attempts by some bodies to hold onto the power they gained over the citizenry.
“Controlling the virus” and “preventing deaths” are the slogans being used now to justify the continued lockdown. They’re not reasonable but are emotion-driven. That’s why they’re getting so much play.
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