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re: Why the Lockdown Lost

Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:10 am to
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Too chicken shite to put your actual opinion down?


I'm far from an extremist and sadly, stand completely in the middle of almost everything political.

On here, not even describing the entertainment value, responding contrary to an overwhelming consensus of extreme views is just hard not to do.

Not that it matters but my real personal opinion here: Nobody could have handled this one perfectly. The whole world is in this together and still we don't know what's absolutely right but one thing we do know: Those with extreme views (political/religious/selfish...) should be given absolutely zero empowerment to make decisions for us all.

We need a balanced and central leader to take charge and responsibility.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260490 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:14 am to
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I'm far from an extremist and sadly, stand completely in the middle of almost everything political.


Your retarded "masogynist" thread about the Michigan governor suggests you're a whack job.

But all the loons think they're more centrist than they really are.




If you want to criticize leaders, start here.

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Those with extreme views (political/religious/selfish...) should be given absolutely zero empowerment to make decisions for us all.


Adios.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 10:16 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37503 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:16 am to
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Those with extreme views (political/religious/selfish...) should be given absolutely zero empowerment to make decisions for us all.

We need a balanced and central leader to take charge and responsibility.


Like allowing people to make their own decisions based on what’s best for them
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260490 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:18 am to
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Like allowing people to make their own decisions based on what’s best for them


Bristol thinks you're selfish if you don't need government to force you to comply.

Responsible people do not need force.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:21 am to
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stand completely in the middle of almost everything political.


Every single one of your other posts over the past few days in here say otherwise. You're ate up with TDS. There's nothing "middle" about any of it.

Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
4485 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:23 am to
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Everyone should take their stimulus money and buy a good suit. They're going to need it for their Zoom interview for their next job


Wouldn't they need one for a face to face interview as well?
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:40 am to
Oh, the Michigan Governor thread. There were so many confirming 'count', 'bitch', and 'fat' descriptors, I had to google derogatory words to respond back. That was a fun one.

In response to your graph. My opinion doesn't mean shite but would definitely vote for both DeSantis and Abbot. Not that she needs it but the way she's been bullied, I have to stand up for Governor Whitmer. So will the voters.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:40 am to
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Should Trump listen to his scientific experts or not?





Was he listening to his advisors/experts in January, February, and early March when they were all warning him of the threat and the dire need to get testing capabilities expanded? Was he listening to them when he was downplaying the threat during that time on Twitter and public comments? Was he listening to them when he was touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine, while Fauci was cautioning the public on it?

The sad truth is this was never a public health problem in Trump's eyes, it was a political one. The even sadder truth is if he had realized the public health problem and actually listened to some of his advisors and the experts, he could have scored a massive political win and solidified his 2020 election win.
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:47 am to
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slowed the development of herd immunity.

Thanks but no thanks. I'm not part of any herd.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260490 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:50 am to
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The sad truth is this was never a public health problem in Trump's eyes, it was a political one. The even sadder truth is if he had realized the public health problem and actually listened to some of his advisors and the experts, he could have scored a massive political win and solidified his 2020 election win.


I'm no Trump fan but this is pure DU fiction.

States were allowed to deal with it at their discretion.

If your blame is on Trump and not Cuomo, you're a hack.

The US is too large and diverse for blanket policy.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:52 am to
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Was he listening to his advisors/experts in January, February, and early March when they were all warning him of the threat and the dire need to get testing capabilities expanded?


Yes, because he relied on his experts at the CDC to take care of that. And we know how that turned out.

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Was he listening to them when he was downplaying the threat during that time on Twitter and public comments?


You mean after he was called racist and attacked by the media and democrats for wanting to shut down travel to China?

So I'll ask again, should Trump listen to his experts or not? Or should he just listen to them when you happen to agree with what their saying, and ignore them when you don't?


This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 10:53 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:54 am to
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I have to stand up for Governor Whitmer.


You're such a good little statist.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65706 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:56 am to
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Yes, because he relied on his experts at the CDC to take care of that. And we know how that turned out.





You're such a good little parrot.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:57 am to
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States were allowed to deal with it at their discretion.




So why even have a President and Federal government then.


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The US is too large and diverse for blanket policy.



Nothing I said had anything to do with a blanket policy. The fact is the federal government, at the direction of the White House, has the ability to coordinate resources and distribute those resources to heavily impacted areas. Leaving it up to the states to fend for themselves isn't some genius tactical decisions, it's a shirking of responsibility. And that shirking of responsibility is one big reason we're still somewhat locked down.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260490 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:58 am to
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I have to stand up for Governor Whitmer. So will the voters.


Chauvinist.

Progressives in 2016: OMG! Trump is an authoritarian!

Progs in 2020: OMG! I love the authoritarian Whitmer!

She declared war on the middle class and small business and wants to jail people for dissent. And you're defending her
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:58 am to
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You're such a good little parrot.


Feel free to refute anything in that statement.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30106 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:58 am to
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The sad truth is this was never a public health problem one iota any more dangerous or lethal than any number of other flu-like outbreaks in recent history.




//Accuratized
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:00 am to
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Where else do FB Kyle's ger their C19 talking points? Clickbait shite.

Its funny the places we have been getting updates from have been much more correct in their predictions than your hero doctors and epidemiologists isn't it? How stupid do you have to be to not realize you were fooled? Anything CNN tells you you will follow. "Flatten the curve" -okay ill stay home. "We need a vaccine" -okay I will keep staying home and make fun of everyone that's not too stupid to look at data and see this is bullshite.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:00 am to
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So why even have a President and Federal government then.




Why should Iowa have the same response as New York? Hell, why should Upstate NY have the same response as NYC?


Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:03 am to
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Why should Iowa have the same response as New York?



Never said they should. I've never said the WH should have applied a blanket response.
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