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re: Why does no one invest in NOLA East? Actually, why does no one invest in New Orleans?

Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7735 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Gentrification.........


Don't have to worry about dat in da east.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26315 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:33 pm to
Maybe next time you're coming back to New Orleans, get off I-10 somewhere in the East and take Chef Hwy into the city. You'll see why nobody wants to invest in the East. Its a crime and poverty ridden shithole.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:35 pm to
Have you not seen that monster church that was just built out there on the service road? I drove by at 8 last weekend and they had two cops directing traffic.

At least the east has Jesus.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11841 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:35 pm to
Went to Nashville and Charlotte and wonders why NOLA cannot be like them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71131 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:42 pm to
Because to get approved to do anything in New Orleans, you have to bribe so many layers of bureaucracy to do anything that it’s not worth the trouble.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:44 pm to
Two new breweries coming up in The East.

Dixie and Cajun Fire.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26496 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:44 pm to
There has been a good amount of investment in various parts of the city since Katrina (St Claude, Freret, Central City, etc) But the East is a lost cause.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:47 pm to
Such a vast area with a bad reputation. There are parts that are decent, quiet and affordable. Just no real amenities.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
10016 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:51 pm to
When the crown jewel of New Orleans East resides at 4000 Downman Road, you have got serious problems.

Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7735 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:57 pm to


Photo was taken in Gentilly, but close enough. Let 'em have it.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38406 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:58 pm to
Unfortunately, the East has devolved into a shooting gallery and a poor excuse of a shithole. Shitholes are better. It was not always that way. I grew up out there off of Crowder in the 70's and 80's and up until the late 80's it was still pretty decent.....in the early 80's the East was it. You had the Plaza, decent restaurants and stable if not growing property values Then........

In the mid 1980's the city council was able to redraw the districts and as such they thought it a good idea to lump the East with the Lower 9 and Desire. As such poor African Americans and their poverty pimp reps, gained control of the area. They started by passing out wholesale Sec. 8 certificates to anyone with a pulse and since the oil bust and Martin Marietta had moved out there became a surplus of housing stock. People Johnny Jackson, the new councilman and Jon Johnson, the State Senator began emptying Desire into the apartments along the interstate

You can guess at the results..... local grocery stores, independents started noticing an increase in shrinkage(theft). The Plaza became a dangerous place especially the parking lot at night. People started selling their homes in large numbers therefore driving the prices down. I knew a guy, a doctor, who had bought a house on a lake in the East in 1976 for 180K which was a nice price for a 4600 sq ft house at the time, put in a pool, etc, by the time he sells it in 1995 he's lucky to get 245K for it....true story

By that time there were no restaurants to speak of unless you count the fast food places and a few Chinese, the Plaza was almost deserted except for the plethora of shoe stores and places for baby clothes. The council had landed a distribution center for McFrugals right near the high rise....it "burned down" not too long after opening up....they never rebuilt

It was active neglect and degeneration throughout the area.....even the black folks who had always lived out there and were professionals were leaving.

I still hate Johnny Jackson and Jon Johnson fr what they did and don't even get me stared on the now judge Ellen Hazeur. They all were involved in th neglect that bordered on criminal.....if any of them were on fire it would be a hard decision whether to piss on them or quickly find some more fuel to add to the fire. I lost a friend to the violence out there in the early 1990's. Watched an 80 year old woman get carjacked...she got the guy good by backing her car into the Morrisson Canal. I know that today that there is but 1 grocery store in the whole part east of the Canal.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7735 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:05 pm to
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the Plaza was almost deserted except for the plethora of shoe stores and places for baby clothes.


Don't forget Mr. Goldman I, II, III and IV. I had lived out of town for about 4 years for school (and out of the east since 1990) and took a trip to the plaza in 2000 to go to the Tinderbox. Needless to say, the Tinderbox was closed. The experience was surreal. 2/3 of the storefronts where closed and the parking lot was empty.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:25 pm to
I stopped off Bullard last weekend to get gas.......i imagine that is what Tikrit looks like.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38406 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:28 pm to
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At least the east has Jesus.


Ohhhhh they got churches alright.......the morally right and upstanding Bishop Paul Morton of Greater St. Stephen....the dude was practically stealing the money during services.....I saw the new one out there a few months ago....it's good business, they'll tell you about Jesus as steal the money from your hand
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38406 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:33 pm to
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I stopped off Bullard last weekend to get gas.......i imagine that is what Tikrit looks like


How's the hospital on the south side of the interstate doing out there.....oh wait, they never reopened after Katrina or the big grocery store across the street that used to be a big Schwegmann's..... damn forgot, ain't there no more....to be fair, John Schwegmann did more to destroy Schwegmanns than anyone else.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53961 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:35 pm to
Folger's plant smell is too strong. Nobody wants to smell coffee all day
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11741 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:44 pm to
Because New Orleans population growth has stagnated. Invest for who?
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4344 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:44 pm to
I have relatives that live on Michoud. They are elderly and white. I think they are the only white people on the street. Most of their neighbors are Vietnamese. They love it out there. They are very active in the Catholic Church there. Of course, they go to bed at 6 pm so they miss most of the neighborhood excitement.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38406 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:03 pm to
The Vietnamese typically are not going to mess with old people out there and tend to be pretty good neighbors. I knew some of the Vietnamese out there, their kids all moved to either Slidell or married into the white world. Plus if the Vietnamese Catholic priest is good with them, they are protected
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:22 pm to
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After living in places like Nashville, Atlanta, and Charlotte,


Do these places not have bad areas?

I know Houston has areas that were once considered "nice suburbs" or "suburbs in the city" that are now crapholes.

Gentrification happens from the inside out. There are tons of investments the closer you get to downtown.

NOLA East is a giant mess. It was meant to be for the middle class, and also had spots for upper class as well, especially upper class minorities. The Plaza was amazing when it opened. Eastover was amazing.

Oil bust hit and that area got destroyed. It never really recovered, and then it got slammed in Katrina. Plus, it's on a damn swamp.

The only real answer for the East is industrial, but I'm not sure anyone wants to invest billions for industrial in an area that is, again, on a damn swamp.
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