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re: Why do cops leave their cars running?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:50 pm to LSUJML
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:50 pm to LSUJML
quote:
it has something to do with keeping the power on & interior cool for their computers / electronics
This. If they leave all their computers/radios on while the vehicle is off, it drains battery power. If they were to turn it off to save battery power while out of the vehicle, it takes a long time to boot up when turned back on.
I've also been told it is easier on the engine instead of having to crank it every time they get out of the vehicle.
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:55 pm to achenator
There was a video a mechanic posted the data pulled from the computer on a cop car... the idle hours was stupid high like 8 times higher than the driving time.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
The city parish purchases their fuel at a wholesale rate that isn’t taxed, you know like farmers.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 9:05 pm to billjamin
Think of all of the extra duty hours that happen. Flur di lis Pizza for example. How many hours did a cruiser sit there idling while they sold not so great pizzas for cash. They would never leave even if there was a crime around the corner committed. They're off duty. But using government resources for profit. I am sure many here can list restaurants and businesses that are paying off duty policeman to watch TV.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 9:39 pm to Maillard
I can tell you, it's because that vehicle is thier office. Would you turn your pc off every time you got up from your desk?
When they start the car the cellular modem has to connect. They turn the slow arse laptop on to boot up. You see those rugged laptops are expensive to start with so city governments cheap out on the specs. Then they have to log in to the laptop, then authenticate with the VPN, then do 2 factor authentication. Then log into CAD, and then their reporting software, and them MoveAR or whatever software they use.
They are not gonna do that over and over. They don't have time.... they are usually short staffed, working lots of calls, and dont get to sit for a full lunch often anyways.
As to how I know? I work IT for a city. I set up and and support the network, laptop, printer, and cameras in the cars. I talk with the officers a lot.
When they start the car the cellular modem has to connect. They turn the slow arse laptop on to boot up. You see those rugged laptops are expensive to start with so city governments cheap out on the specs. Then they have to log in to the laptop, then authenticate with the VPN, then do 2 factor authentication. Then log into CAD, and then their reporting software, and them MoveAR or whatever software they use.
They are not gonna do that over and over. They don't have time.... they are usually short staffed, working lots of calls, and dont get to sit for a full lunch often anyways.
As to how I know? I work IT for a city. I set up and and support the network, laptop, printer, and cameras in the cars. I talk with the officers a lot.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:11 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Because they don't pay for the gas. You and I do.
The pay taxes too.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:40 pm to DavidTheGnome
I don’t know about the equipment they use, but I used an iPad for work and when it overheated it would shut down and wouldn’t come back up until it was sufficiently cooled off which could take 15-30 minutes in a hot vehicle trying to cool itself off.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:27 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Even if they're on lunch and gone into someplace to eat so going to be a while they'll leave the vehicle running, why? It seems so wasteful
Some study done years ago says that it is better for response times. Since then it is SOP for every LEO agency in the US. It is totally stupid. The fact its policy is crazy. Its just so hard to get in front of the argument that public saftey should be behind fiscal responsibility. I've been in several municipal budget meetings where I've argued about this and I have lost every single time. If it just saves one life, than we leave every polic car running for hours a day even if no one is in the car.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:58 am to King
King nailed it.... too many data bases to log back into. takes forever.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:02 am to Pandy Fackler
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If they don't keep them idle while they're doing whatever cop thing they're doing. Because of the electronics and shite that's piled in that car, the batteries will go dead immediately.
The confidence of ignorance is always somehow impresssive.
The difference in fuel mileage of a patrol car running for its entire shift vs being turned off and on is about 3 mpg. Crown vics averaged 11 mpg vs 8. Roughly $10 per unit per shift 20 years ago.
Now? Maybe $15.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 3:08 am
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:07 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
Cops are never off duty
24 hours a day people need them
24 hours a day people need them
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:56 am to DavidTheGnome
In case they need to be in
"Hot puh-suit!"
"Hot puh-suit!"
Posted on 8/9/24 at 7:42 am to DavidTheGnome
To maintain a cooler temp during summer, not drain batteries while electronics are running and motor is not. Some units battery will
Go dead on off days from
Electronics or miscellaneous things draining battery.
Go dead on off days from
Electronics or miscellaneous things draining battery.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 7:57 am to Motownsix
quote:
Some study done years ago says that it is better for response times
This was what I thought it was for.
And since it's SOP for most of the country, I would bet there are some liabilities if a city or parish/county changed it's SOP and had officers shut off everything and stop the engine to eat, have an emergency call of life or death in close proximity, the vehicle fail to start, and the victim gets killed within the reason of response time.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 8:00 am to King
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As to how I know? I work IT for a city. I set up and and support the network, laptop, printer, and cameras in the cars
So it’s your fault
Posted on 8/9/24 at 8:18 am to pwejr88
quote:Cop friend told me it takes 7-10 minutes for all the new computer shite in the city cars to boot properly and sync to the new body cams. Says some times the IT dork is in the parking lot at the start of the shift going from car to car trying to get everyone's crap working correctly.
It’s because when their cruiser first starts up, it takes an insane amount of time for all the electronics to boot up.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 8:20 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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when they are off duty how are the electronics ok while the car is off?
The electronics are off when they are off duty
But as other have said it’s not the heat anyway. It’s the boot-up time for all of their systems.
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/9/24 at 8:29 am to kciDAtaE
quote:
So it’s your fault
Not in the slightest.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:37 am to DavidTheGnome
Why do cops
1. Drive 20 mph over the speed limit?
2 Are allowed to have their windows tinted way beyond what you and I can?
3. Do not come to a full stop at a stop sign?
1. Drive 20 mph over the speed limit?
2 Are allowed to have their windows tinted way beyond what you and I can?
3. Do not come to a full stop at a stop sign?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:53 am to 3D
quote:
King nailed it.... too many data bases to log back into. takes forever.
Maybe they could afford better IT people and build out an SSO interface if they weren’t blowing so much on excessive idling fuel.
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