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re: Why Do Americans have shorter lifespans than other 1st world countries?

Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:32 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35924 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:32 am to
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Most of the industrialized world has shorter wait times for all health care services than the United States. That number only reflects the # of people with the ability to PAY for health care. The high number of under and uninsured Americans, which does not exist anywhere else in the industrialized world, skews wait times in the US where it does not in the rest of the world...if one person never receives the health care they need because they do not have insurance the wait time in the US is infinite...we can only calculate wait times for those who eventually get care. More people on other industrialized nations have access to health care, per capita, than we do in the US. It also costs less in those nations because everyone is paying, not just the insured.


But I thought Obamacare was supposed to solve all this???

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70462 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:35 am to
Obesity and more time in a car.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32244 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:40 am to
Deaths from pneumonia and influenza dropped bc they were 100% coded as Covid deaths.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6380 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:55 am to
one thing the world does not need is folks living longer.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12246 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:57 am to
Our food poisons us. Its a fact and one that is very difficult to get around since the healthy versions of everything is twice the cost.
Posted by BhamBlazeDog
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2018
3835 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:57 am to
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obesity, better food



Obesity is correct, but better food is not correct. Our food supply is f'd and that is what is killing us.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11617 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:05 am to
Diet is the root cause. We’re the home of processed, salty, fatty fast food.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:10 am to
The microwave was the impetus that triggered ready to eat foods and obesity.

Eating on demand was not a thing prior.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102675 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:47 am to
Obesity

Also demographics. England is 90% English

America is many different backgrounds. Other cultures make different lifestyle choices. But black Americans have a longer lifespan than Africans do for example.

I bet white Americans alone are more similar to the English
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21944 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:51 am to
Obesity plays a large role. But you can't criticize people for it. That's body shaming now. They are big and beautiful.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:55 am to
europeans take about 3mos of vacation a year
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 12:22 pm to
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It seems like our superior healthcare and shorter wait times would make us live much longer than brits.


We do. The fatties and cultcha drag down the average.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5145 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 12:25 pm to
Stress and obesity
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 1:06 pm to
You are so racist that you truly believe black Americans are the driving force behind our shorter life expectancies? That is not surprising but also mind blowing. We are fat and lazy, and some of those that need help the most simply can’t afford it so they don’t get medical treatment.
Posted by chawbaw
Member since Sep 2021
71 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:46 pm to
There are various “wait time” variables that are measured. Those I am referring to are not simply follow-up or routine physician appointments and follow ups. Those I am referring to are elective surgery like joint replacements that tend to affect one’s quality of life. I assure you, the uninsured and underinsured are being seen in ERs and ORs around the US. I see it every day. Those number are also likely to be recorded differently in countries where the ER isn’t used as a clinic vs. here where they tend to be used that way far too often.

Couple articles attached below that illustrate exactly what I’m saying if you care to take a gander:

LINK

LINK


And here’s an article outlining the public/private coverage partnerships that exist in various countries as opposed to the idea that “everyone just pays a share and gets the same care”:

LINK

World Obesity Statistics:
US is first among 1st Wordl Countries

LINK
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7373 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:50 pm to
You really think the US is the best place for healthy living or safe living, it is far down the list. The evidence is stacked and your question seems pretty out of touch.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36231 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:55 pm to
I’ll just leave this here:

Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17958 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:46 pm to
Obesity thanks the the food conglomerates and the FDA....and women driving men into early graves.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2677 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:50 pm to
Spent two weeks in Germany back in May. Ate a LOT. Most of it was home cooked meals at homes of friends and family. Walked just about everywhere we went. Nervously got on the scale our first day back home, and I had lost 11 pounds during those two weeks.
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