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re: Why did racism pick up speed in the 50's?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:46 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
"Jim Crow" being a pejorative term for an African American
I swear I thought that was the name of the guy that came up with the law.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:48 pm to OysterPoBoy
So did I. We all learned something today.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:55 pm to Emteein
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Speechless
For real. The ignorance of the newer generations is frightening. Our education system has completely failed(or succeeded, depending on who you’re talking to).
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:57 pm to OysterPoBoy
It was always there but post-WWII with a booming economy and the US emerging as a superpower most of why it "emerged" in the 50's is because minorities started pushing back and quit accepting racism/segregation as the forever, unchangeable, status quo.
At the same time Soviet propaganda was also feeding it. The talking points we hear today are straight out of a Comitern pamphlet. The most common phrase in Soviet propaganda, directed at us and within the USSR, was "social justice". "Social Justice" was the justification for every extreme action the USSR took. You just had to divide the people into groups, and declare one of them an enemy and *poof* "social justice" justified any action against that enemy.
That propaganda was fed into the US in huge volumes because of our freedoms immediately after WWII and it meshed well with the legitimate fight against racism here. Later our security apparatus caught up and limited that volume, but in the 50's going into the 60's the USSR flooded us through various fronts.
By the way, the second most used word in Soviet Propaganda under the Comitern was "racism". Have to remember, the USSR was/is made of what is likely over 120 what we would call nationalities. To that part of the world those are races; skin color had nothing to do with it. That's part of the issue with Ukraine today. We view it though the lens of nations/nationalities, Putin views it through the lens of races... and Kiev is the home of the Rus.
At the same time Soviet propaganda was also feeding it. The talking points we hear today are straight out of a Comitern pamphlet. The most common phrase in Soviet propaganda, directed at us and within the USSR, was "social justice". "Social Justice" was the justification for every extreme action the USSR took. You just had to divide the people into groups, and declare one of them an enemy and *poof* "social justice" justified any action against that enemy.
That propaganda was fed into the US in huge volumes because of our freedoms immediately after WWII and it meshed well with the legitimate fight against racism here. Later our security apparatus caught up and limited that volume, but in the 50's going into the 60's the USSR flooded us through various fronts.
By the way, the second most used word in Soviet Propaganda under the Comitern was "racism". Have to remember, the USSR was/is made of what is likely over 120 what we would call nationalities. To that part of the world those are races; skin color had nothing to do with it. That's part of the issue with Ukraine today. We view it though the lens of nations/nationalities, Putin views it through the lens of races... and Kiev is the home of the Rus.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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My bad. I was just so dumbfounded my the stand alone sentence I had to respond.
I realized how it looked after I reread it. I was meaning "The reason we started seeing more scenes of racism from the media in the 1950's" as opposed to "The reason racism picked up in the 1950's."
Based on the the OP's question, I thought the simpler statement with less context would get the basic point across easier. That is until I reread it and had a probably similar reaction as you
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:13 pm to OysterPoBoy
Because it's not racism when it's the norm. The word "racist" was not even in popular use until the 1930s, and then was applied to describe the Nazi regime.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:18 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:Sounds like you slept through about 3-4 months of US History class.
The civil war ended some time in the 1860s. You never really hear much about racism until the 1950s. A silent almost 100 years. I'm sure there were still racists but it wasn't as popular I guess?
Was there a moment that made things kick off in the south with separate water fountains and bathrooms or had that been going on the whole time and it just took until the 50s for black people to get fed up?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:26 pm to OysterPoBoy
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The civil war ended some time in the 1860s. You never really hear much about racism until the 1950s. A silent almost 100 years. I'm sure there were still racists but it wasn't as popular I guess?
Perhaps incidents picked up steam in the 50's because that is when the civil rights movement began to really take off post WWII? That's all I can think of.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:27 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
The civil war ended some time in the 1860s.
You know there was an actual end date, right?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
I didn't feel like looking it up.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:35 pm to Grigio
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When did Russia start sending over illegals to infiltrate, indoctrinate, and influence America?
Russia doesn’t send illegals.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:42 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
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Based on the the OP's question, I thought the simpler statement with less context would get the basic point across easier. That is until I reread it and had a probably similar reaction as you
Haha all good man. I am certainly not the shinning beacon of clear and concise posting.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:05 pm to Shexter
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Why did the prison system grow exponentially after the 70's?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:26 pm to OysterPoBoy
Archie Bunker has that answer
quote:
Archie Bunker : Well, let me tell you one thing about Richard E. Nixon. He knows how to keep his wife, Pat, home. Roosevelt could never do that with Eleanor. She was always out on the loose. Running around with the coloreds. Tellin' 'em they was gettin' the short end of the stick. She was the one who discovered the coloreds in this country; we never knew they was there!
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:26 pm to Shexter
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Why did the prison system grow exponentially after the 70's?
That's when the globalists were really gaining a foothold. They realized if you're gonna start stripping away people's rights you need something for them to fear. The threat of going to prison for life is enough to keep most people in line, even as you strip their freedoms and force them into debt servitude
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:28 pm to OysterPoBoy
3 interations of klan
1st reconstruction
2nd like join a club ...depression killed that
3rd the fight aganst federalism and Catholics Voting right act
1st reconstruction
2nd like join a club ...depression killed that
3rd the fight aganst federalism and Catholics Voting right act
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:29 pm to OysterPoBoy
Lyndon B Johnson new policies
Johnson's Great Society was aimed at expanding civil rights, public broadcasting, access to health care, aid to education and the arts, urban and rural development, and public services. He sought to create better living conditions for low-income Americans by spearheading the war on poverty. As part of these efforts, Johnson signed the Social Security Amendments of 1965, which resulted in the creation of Medicare and Medicaid. Johnson made the Apollo program a national priority; enacted the Higher Education Act of 1965, which established federally insured student loans; and signed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which laid the groundwork for U.S. immigration policy today. Johnson's stance on civil rights put him at odds with other white, Southern Democrats. His civil rights legacy was shaped by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968.
Johnson's Great Society was aimed at expanding civil rights, public broadcasting, access to health care, aid to education and the arts, urban and rural development, and public services. He sought to create better living conditions for low-income Americans by spearheading the war on poverty. As part of these efforts, Johnson signed the Social Security Amendments of 1965, which resulted in the creation of Medicare and Medicaid. Johnson made the Apollo program a national priority; enacted the Higher Education Act of 1965, which established federally insured student loans; and signed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which laid the groundwork for U.S. immigration policy today. Johnson's stance on civil rights put him at odds with other white, Southern Democrats. His civil rights legacy was shaped by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:44 pm to Emteein
If they had exempted Mary Jane and just treated it like alcohol I think the “war on drugs” might not have been such a colossal frickup.
Fatal mistake was lumping in a wildly popular and largely harmless (for adults) substance in with true scourges like heroin and meth.
Fatal mistake was lumping in a wildly popular and largely harmless (for adults) substance in with true scourges like heroin and meth.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:48 pm to OysterPoBoy
Everyone wants to simplify a very complex topic. Reconstruction was an ill-spirited means to punish the South. It spawned a lot of hate and animosity. Birth of a Nation should be watched and understood IMO. You cant start to make sense of something that you dont fully understand.
Its very easy to comprehend simple arguments like "white folks are racist" or "black folks are bad" etc. Its very hard to look back with a critical eye at humanity and see that mixing of race, nationality, and ethnicity ends badly 100% of the time. Black folks and native Hispanics are not inherently trouble, they are just incompatible in general with western culture. Non-Europeans that are compatible on an individual level self select to do so through immigration and assimilation.
Its very easy to comprehend simple arguments like "white folks are racist" or "black folks are bad" etc. Its very hard to look back with a critical eye at humanity and see that mixing of race, nationality, and ethnicity ends badly 100% of the time. Black folks and native Hispanics are not inherently trouble, they are just incompatible in general with western culture. Non-Europeans that are compatible on an individual level self select to do so through immigration and assimilation.
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