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re: Why are people so ignorant about their health?

Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Yall at the NIT this weekend?



na, got friends kids that are but thats too big for us. we arent national level majors. I didnt see yall in it...did i just miss it?

we played in BR last weekend and did well. We will see alot of those teams in the BR Nits but we mainly sticking to select series and couple NITs and invite only tourneys.

that houston NIT is literally the best tournament of the season. We could beat prolly 25% of those teams and have the pitching to compete with another 25%. and like team sosa...we can compete with them...but overall they are going to pull it out 80% of the time because they pull from way more kids than us and use pick up players etc. Last year in pigeon forge they had 50+ kids on the GC roster...insane.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:30 pm to
That's ripped in my book baw.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38003 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:32 pm to
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I’m not at all saying I’m the definition of an athlete, but I’m far from overweight. My body fat percentage is currently 15.2% which is higher than I’d like. Working to get that below 13% at the moment.


at a true dexa scan 13% you should be pretty shredded
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:38 pm to
Its learned behavior for a lot of people. I would imagine.

I grew up in a household where you ate breakfast, lunch, sometimes a small snack late afternoon and then dinner between 6-6:30. We were just told its not good to eat close to bed time.

My grandpa's philosophy was "you don't eat when you get hungry, you eat to keep from getting hungry". In other words if you are not hungry when you eat then you eat less so don't just wait to eat when you are hungry, when its time to eat, no matter what you eat at that time. And my eating schedule is still similar. I eat a light breakfast, an early lunch, I might eat a snack around 2:30 - 3PM (yogurt or something) then dinner between 6-7, go to sleep between 9:30 - 10 on weekdays.

I think for a lot of people the only time they eat around the same time everyday is lunch. Then a few hours later they get hungry and instead of just getting something to hold them over they will find something that could be a meal. Then dinner comes around they eat again, then they are home watching TV where they grab the chips or ice cream.. Or they might just snack all day.

They work through lunch because they are not hungry because they have been snacking on something. Then in late afternoon they have nothing else to snack on and when they are done for the day they realize they haven't eaten a meal all day, but they have to go do something at a certain time so they grab some fast food. Then once they settle down for the night, they fix something to eat before going to bed.

Then there are people who are in cubicles all day. That creates habits and all of a sudden they are not getting the exercise they once did. Its not put in people's daily schedule so they just lose track of their activity. Some people sit in a cubicle all day then go home and play video games. And these activities start younger in life than when kids used to play outside all the time during the summer and after school.

I even see fatasses playing on 6, 7th grade school ball and rec teams. I went to a school ball game last night. I hate these younger kids. One of the pitchers were getting rocked. After giving up a nice hit the kid grabs his side and says he is hurt, evidently every time the kid pitches and the other team starts hitting off of him he acts like he is injuried. And of course his mother runs to him and makes him leave the dugout to sit by her and he is sitting with his head on his shoulder pouting .. You used to get picked on if you did some shite like that. If someone did that, it would get back to the other kids then anytime something happens it would be "what's wrong? momma not here for you?". "What are you going to do about it? Tell your mommie?".

tldr: People have bad habits thats why they are fat, kids are pussies today so we have a bunch of fat arse pussies on our hands.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:49 pm to
My body my choice
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Yeah there’s a ton of skinny people just as unhealthy as the chubby guy but their faster metabolism is masking the obvious warning sign.



1. Metabolism variances to any degree that matters are not a thing unless someone has an actual medical condition or is on a medication that affects it. People who are thinner than you aren't consuming 5k calories a day and magically not gaining weight.

2. Obesity is the #1 contributor to health issues. So yes, even a skinny person who eats mostly junk foods (in small portions) is healthier than an obese person.

Do you not recall this?

quote:

An overwhelming majority of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the CDC said in a new study Monday.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
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I grew up in a household where you ate breakfast, lunch, sometimes a small snack late afternoon and then dinner between 6-6:30.




Kind of a funny story, for probably the last 10 or 15 yrs, ive gotten into the habit of skipping breakfast (never was a big breakfast person anyway), just coffee in the morning.. I usually have my first meal, which is lunch, around 11 or 11:30am…. Then a snack around 3pm.. then dinner at 8 or 8:30pm, and nothing after that .. It’s just the way i like to eat, and what feels right to me…. THEN, only in the last couple of years- i learned that there’s actually a name for the way i eat (“intermittent fasting”) and that, by god, it’s actually supposed to be GOOD FOR YOU and somehow healthy ! Lol, well i guess i started a trend, but like i said it works for me.. i dont have the body of Brad Pitt or anything, but i am pretty lean, and in my 40s i dont take any prescription medication, numbers are good so guess im doing alright .


ETA i drink black coffee in the morning but i do put some cane sugar in it so i guess I technically break the fast, but whatever
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:56 pm to
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at a true dexa scan 13% you should be pretty shredded


This is from an InBody scan. I’m not sure how that differs from a dexa scan. I definitely don’t consider myself shredded but I’m working on getting better. That’s all any of us can do.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5833 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:01 pm to
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I'm 6'2". I've been as low as 160 in my adult life. The only people who called me "sickly" were morbidly obese. I prefer to stay in the 180 lb range these days, which is still a healthy weight.


Ditto.

Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2656 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:06 pm to
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that whole BMI scale needs to be re-written.

I tend to agree
Im 6’5 240#
BMI = 28.5
The chart indicates that I should be in the 200# range
I went on a health maintenance program several years ago.
I got down to 210# and people were asking me if I was sick or something.
I looked like a marathoner.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38003 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:17 pm to
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I tend to agree
Im 6’5 240#
BMI = 28.5
The chart indicates that I should be in the 200# range
I went on a health maintenance program several years ago.
I got down to 210# and people were asking me if I was sick or something.
I looked like a marathoner


no you didnt and maybe you should have lifted some weights.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Do you not recall this?

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An overwhelming majority of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the CDC said in a new study Monday.



Absolutely but that’s besides the point.

I’ll have to disagree with your point on metabolism though. I barely eat, am very active, and am overweight and have witnessed time and time again many people who eat much more and worse than I do, live a sedentary lifestyle and are still thin.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83028 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:33 pm to
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I’ll have to disagree with your point on metabolism though. I barely eat, am very active, and am overweight and have witnessed time and time again many people who eat much more and worse than I do, live a sedentary lifestyle and are still thin.



Watch the show Secret Eaters. Its an entire series that debunks exactly what you're claiming.

I promise you. You do not live 24/7 with the people you're referring to. They eat large, calorie filled meals in front of you, but they are not magical beings that defy science.

I guarantee you most everyone I know wonders how the hell I'm thin when I drink alcohol often and order whatever food I want out. All they'd have to do is spend 2 weeks with me and realize it all balances out.

I have friends who eat fish, tons of vegetables, healthy grains, etc. at home for meals, and I used to wonder how on earth they struggled so much with weight. Then I started paying attention. The two times I eat per day might be less healthy items, but it's their coffee shop pastry stop.. their mall pretzel and Icee stop.. their nighttime cheese and crackers.. etc. adding up.

Spend a few weeks eating normally, and document every single item you eat. Not just at meal times. Everything. Handful of nuts at your desk. A Coca Cola in the afternoon. A beer after work. Etc.

If you're truly only consuming ~2000 calories or whatever each day, then you need to visit a medical professional for the health condition you have because you defy normal biology.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86172 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:36 pm to
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I’ll have to disagree with your point on metabolism though. I barely eat, am very active, and am overweight and have witnessed time and time again many people who eat much more and worse than I do, live a sedentary lifestyle and are still thin.


nope
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9134 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:38 pm to
Some of them I have lived with 24/7.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37049 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:46 pm to
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You can still live an enjoyable lifestyle filled with good food and booze by [a] not eating absurd portions of it and [b] watching your intake on the days where you're not socializing. There's no reason not to eat healthy on a boring arse weekday when you have no plans. Also, I think skipping breakfast (it's not that long until lunch) would help tons of people and still allow them to enjoy fun food/alcohol.

Yep. I skip breakfast at least 5 days a week, during the week I limit intake. Friday-Sunday I eat and drink whatever I want, and I have a sub 25 BMI.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:46 pm to
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I’ll have to disagree with your point on metabolism though. I barely eat, am very active, and am overweight and have witnessed time and time again many people who eat much more and worse than I do, live a sedentary lifestyle and are still thin.



says everyone who is skinny fat, takes 3k steps a day and eats 50g protein a day while always knowing whats going on with the latest tv show
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10919 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:48 pm to
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As many have already said, BMI isn’t the most useful number for an individual. At the beginning of this month, my BMI was 23.6 - that’s not far off from being in the “overweight” category.

I’m not at all saying I’m the definition of an athlete, but I’m far from overweight. My body fat percentage is currently 15.2% which is higher than I’d like. Working to get that below 13% at the moment.



I've never had my body fat percentage measured.

I did just find this website that you put in measurements.
no freaking clue how accurate this is, what part of neck to measure, etc.





this site has my BMI at 24.3
a different site inputting the same measurements has me at 25.1

don't know which method is correct, but they are obviously different from each other.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:50 pm to
I don’t know how accurate those are either. I’ve never messed with them.

The numbers I got were from my gym’s InBody scanner. I assume (maybe incorrectly?) that this is more accurate than putting numbers in on a website.

Edit: just out of curiosity I went on that website and input my information. It’s showing a BFP of 12.1%. Ain’t no way that’s correct - I wish.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83028 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:00 pm to
Tell yourself whatever you want, but this has been extensively studied and I just even told you about an entire series proving it wrong that might help open your eyes. Barring a unique health condition or medication, your metabolism does not vary nearly vast enough to keep you from being thin nor do thin people's keep them from getting fat.

I personally will never understand why someone would rather sit there and go "muh genetics" instead of actually putting it to the test and being honest with themselves about it.

Also - Living with someone doesn't mean a thing. I highly doubt you sat there writing down whether your roommate ate breakfast that day or finished their entire plate of food at dinner that night. Most people don't pay attention to the detailed eating habits of others, so I'm highly suspect you did this with a roommate.

Somewhere along the line, these people are doing something differently than you that keeps them thin. Whether it's not eating between meals, or skipping meals, or not finishing their food.. or whatever. Their total caloric intake each week is low enough to keep them from getting fat.

quote:

Secret Lives Of Slim People


This is another great watch, since I think it is just a documentary versus multiple episodes.

They follow thin people around who are like, "LOL, I have no idea how I'm thin.. I eat so much junk!" and it turns out all of them are eating at or below maintenance calories.

quote:

It's basically the opposite of Secret Eaters- it looks at two people who are very slim and claim to eat loads and not exercise, and investigates why they're still slim. The basic summary of this episode was one lady ate a pretty standard, but hearty diet- toast for breakfast, sandwich, crisps and fruit for lunch, family dinner and pudding, plus chocolate for snacks- that they added up to be around 2200 calories, which she burnt through her daily activities by fidgeting a lot and being constantly on the go with 3 young boys. The other woman ate literally nothing but junk, but only ate a few bites then threw it away. At the ended they added up what she had eaten to average about 1800 calories a day.


The bolded lady is me. I love the taste of good food, but my fullness meter kicks in early on.

My friends see me order chicken fried steak or biscuits and gravy or whatever at brunch, but they're not paying attention to the fact that I always get a box and my box is always 1-2 additional meals worth.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 3:03 pm
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