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re: Why are Americans so infatuated with Israel?

Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:09 am to
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will always have our backs


Do they really? In what ways? Name them
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176006 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:09 am to
I admire their tenacity and women solidiers
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:13 am to
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People get really heated about who you support
what idiot would support a group of people that’s entire ideology is destroying someone because of their religious beliefs
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:13 am to
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It's escalated further in more recent years with Israelis settling more and more in the Gaza Strip, further pushing Palestinians off their land.


Or they can not act like barbarians and live next to people with a different ethnicity/religion.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6617 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:15 am to
Why the frick do Jewish settlers need to move into Palestinian territory and why would you want to?

It's fricking stupid to move into a neighborhood where you're hated.

Just let them have Gaza and the West Bank and be done with it. It's like if the residents of Old Metairie kept moving into Central City stirring up shite.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33911 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:17 am to
It's a pretty damn free country in an oppressively part of the world so it shares some values with Western culture. And the religion stuff.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66897 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:17 am to
I find the American Media’s staunch defense of the Palestine’s and pairing them as innocent in all this interesting.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81673 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:19 am to
Because:
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If Hamas surrendered all their weapons today, tomorrow there would be peace. If Israel surrendered all their weapons today, tomorrow the entire Jewish population of Israel would be exterminated.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90718 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:21 am to
I find it funny Christians suck off the Jews when it was the Jews who killed Jesus because they didn’t like thar his message mostly contradicted their beliefs in what Gods word is
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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I find the American Media’s staunch defense of the Palestine’s and pairing them as innocent in all this interesting.



Anti-Semitism is the only form of racism accepted in America. I've said it before on here and got called a Zionist, but the basis against Jews in America is insane. Hell Gal Gadot called for peace and the woke crowd tried to cancel her for not saying her country that she served should be destroyed.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39996 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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I've noticed a huge outpouring of support for Israel.


This actually wouldn't be a thing without the

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I've noticed


Why do you GAF? Why does it bother you? Sounds like you're the problem with you.

Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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Christianity surrounded by Muslims


LOL, Jews are not Christians
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:22 am to
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Why the frick do Jewish settlers need to move into Palestinian territory and why would you want to?




The land is really cheap.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6027 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:23 am to
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Why the frick do Jewish settlers need to move into Palestinian territory and why would you want to?

It's fricking stupid to move into a neighborhood where you're hated.

Just let them have Gaza and the West Bank and be done with it. It's like if the residents of Old Metairie kept moving into Central City stirring up shite.


Why did fricking Americans move into any territory? It's the human condition. They want land and opportunity. These settlers actually make something happen. Palestinians don't do shiat with the same dirt.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29178 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:24 am to
Because the girls in the IDF are hot af
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33911 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:25 am to
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Seems just a few months ago we had no issues in the ME. In fact, we were headed toward peace.

BS. It got so bad in Northern Syria the news wasn't even able to find video footage and had to use video from a gun range in America.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:25 am to
After Britain ceded control of the lands it claimed from the Ottoman Empire after WWI, the West no longer had hegemony over the Middle East, which is one of the most geopolitically important locations on the planet due to petroleum and the Suez Canal, but is also one of the most geopolitically unstable areas on the planet due to ancient racial and ethnic divisions.

After WWII, there was a refugee crisis across Europe as the Jews that fled German persecution ended up in countries that either didn't have the resources to assimilate them or didn't want them there. What better way to re-establish Western influence in the Middle East than to create a country with port access to both the Atlantic Ocean via the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean via the Red Sea and then fill that country with Jewish settlers who largely have a favorable view of the Western powers that fought the Germans?

And that's why Western powers love Israel. The United States had a far more tepid reaction (in general) to immigrating Jews after WWI, so a large number of them came here after WWI and all through WWII and the years immediately after. Many of those people settled in the NYC/NJ area simply because they got off the boat there and quit traveling. After all, they'd been through decades of war on the European mainland, walked across much of it, rode on trains (some way less lethal than others), crammed into ships, and then spent weeks on the ocean. If they did travel after arrival, they tended to migrate to the other great cities of the Upper Eastern Seaboard and Chicago. So, we have a large Jewish population compared to much of the other Western powers. That population also tends to cluster in our largest and most important cities, so they have a political voice. Hence, due to our demographics and distance from both Israel and Europe, we tend to be able to fill the role of the cheerleaders for Israel. Though Israel largely can handle its own defense at this point, our ability to project force through our aircraft carriers also allows us to tell the rest of the Middle East to frick around and find out when it comes to REALLY threatening the existence of Israel and, by extension, Western influence in the region. Meanwhile the rest of the Western powers in Europe can take a less forward approach to Israel to avoid angering their own populations while still diplomatically supporting Israel to help keep a hold on and enjoy the benefits of Western influence in the region.

I have other reasons to support Israel, though.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35501 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:27 am to
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Anti-Semitism is the only form of racism accepted in America. I've said it before on here and got called a Zionist, but the basis against Jews in America is insane. Hell Gal Gadot called for peace and the woke crowd tried to cancel her for not saying her country that she served should be destroyed.
It doesn't help when many consider any criticism of Israel as a nation to be anti-sematic.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:28 am to
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Palestinians don't do shiat with the same dirt.




Well, that's not really true. There are several Palestinian established cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:28 am to
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I know many Christians who actually believe that jews/Israelis automatically get into heaven because they are jewish


so reject the Savior and get a free pass ? LOL, those people are Christians
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