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re: Why are Americans so infatuated with Israel?

Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:08 pm to
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I know many Christians who actually believe that jews/Israelis automatically get into heaven because they are jewish and "God's people".

I ask "So what the hell did Jesus die for then?"


It’s like they believe Jews get a Get out of Jail free card
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25862 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:08 pm to
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What the frick for? Do they do anything for us? Are they constantly stirring up shite?


I mean, they bombed the shite out of Syria's and Iraq's nuclear programs and help the US thwart Iran.

So... there's that?
Posted by Smelder
Member since Dec 2017
177 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:10 pm to
This weird good vs evil kinda thing. Imma say hamas and Iran are pretty evil. That’s who Israel is fighting
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8374 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:11 pm to
The Israelis are God's people. You DO NOT want to become an enemy of God's people. God will mess up your day big time.

A friend of Israel is a friend of God. That simple.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by TheRock
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:25 pm to
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The Israelis are God's people. You DO NOT want to become an enemy of God's people. God will mess up your day big time.

There are thousands of different religions that say otherwise so that argument is weak
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10429 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:00 pm to
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There are thousands of different religions that say otherwise so that argument is weak


Well to a believer that follows Christ, it is not really weak at all.

The Jews are God's people. The bible says that they do in fact get a hall pass or as somebody said, a get out of jail free card. The problem is that most don't believe Christ died for their sins which is what gets Christians (dead and alive) into heaven when Christ returns and keeps those still alive after his departure from being ruled by the Anti-Christ and having to take the mark of the Beast. Jew and non-Jew that take the mark will be banished to hell but a Jew that makes it gets the hall pass since they are one of God's chosen people.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19225 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:18 pm to
Zionist propaganda
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3439 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:50 pm to
Aloha Snackbar baw!
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4468 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 6:32 pm to
Probably because it helps to have strong Allies that don’t hate America
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 7:01 pm to
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frick you Akmed


Talk about privilege...God's chosen people and everyone else is their servant who serve no purpose other than to be a tool for their manipulation and then to burn in hell for eternity after.


Posted by MitchMartin
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2013
709 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 7:06 pm to
The bible says that they do in fact get a hall pass or as somebody said, a get out of jail free card.

Source?!?!
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:13 pm to
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Well to a believer that follows Christ, it is not really weak at all.

The Jews are God's people. The bible says that they do in fact get a hall pass or as somebody said, a get out of jail free card. 


You've somehow missed 2,000 years of Christian/Jewish relations?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:14 pm to
American Evangelical Christians believe that they must help Israel retake and rebuild the temple mount in order to facilitate the Rapture and the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Others just see Palestinians reject peace offer after peace offer and are tired of putting up with their whining.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:14 pm to
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That’s who Israel is fighting


When Israel rolls tanks through poor Palestinian neighborhoods in an effort to "settle" them, that's absolutely not who they're fighting.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:16 pm to
Dispensationalism that infiltrated the evangelical Protestant churches
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260387 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Imma say hamas and Iran are pretty evil.


Lots of poor people will pay for decisions made by others sitting in comfort, 100s of miles away. The War Pigs.
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6015 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:20 am to
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Iran


What crime other than holding hostages at the behest of the American government until the transition from the Carter admin has Iran ever committed?


US staged a coup d'etat in '53
After Watergate the info was released &
Caused an uprising in Iran to remove the Shah(US puppet)
The US then froze all of Iran's assets essentially stealing them
They held hostages who were CIA operatives(internationally illegal for CIA to be embassy workers) demanding the release of their assets
Rumsfeld told them to hold the hostages until Reagan was elected
They were told that when they released the hostages the assets would be released
On Reagan's inauguration day they released all the hostages unharmed
The US did not release the money and got Iraq to start a war
They gave Saddam Hussein chemical weapons
Saddam killed a million Iranians over a decade long war (US weapons & funding)
They're trying to curb their reliance on fossil fuels
They pursue nuclear energy like many other nations
The US accuses them of trying to make nuclear weapons, which their process doesn't support
The US assassinates multiple nuclear scientists



But Iran is evil? With the chemical weapons, the lies, assassinations, theft, propaganda and manipulation..... What did Iran do that tips the scales so drastically in your mind to say that they are evil respective to the evil that's been done to them?


This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 9:27 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:31 am to
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How about God himself come down here and fix all this mess??


Wonder if Armageddon will be covered by CNN.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58869 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:33 am to
1). We believe in the same God, even though they reject the savior.

2). Common values stemming from same Judeo-Christian morality and belief system

3) They are the only Democracy in the region, and we have an obligation to defend that.

4). Because Israel needs a friend as they are surrounded by fierce enemies on all sides, and others not in the region are too chicken to stand up for them.
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