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re: Where do you stand? Open it back up? Or keep it shut down?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:42 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:42 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:it seems like this escapes a lot of people, but maybe not
agree. It's going to be awhile before people start feeling comfortable resuming normal activities.
We can say olds and other at risk groups should stay in quarantine, but they’re a YUGE part of the economy. 20-40 something year olds can’t do it themselves.
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:44 pm to jcaz
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This is all BS anyway as the majority of hospitals aren't getting "creamed" as predicted.
Maybe not but the hospital workers are. We had a Doctor and Nurse shortage across the country before this thing started. Not having people available to treat you is just as bad as not having enough hospital beds.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:45 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
And the poor decisions of some will delay this for all of us.
If you pack the bars for Cinco De Mayo, you're going to drive "normal" people away from resuming normal activities. What short-term gains are made from an initial burst of economic activity are going to be lost if middle class families sit things out because of the recklessness of some. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario probably involves additional major outbreaks that shut everything down again.
If you pack the bars for Cinco De Mayo, you're going to drive "normal" people away from resuming normal activities. What short-term gains are made from an initial burst of economic activity are going to be lost if middle class families sit things out because of the recklessness of some. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario probably involves additional major outbreaks that shut everything down again.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:45 pm to yellowfin
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Open yesterday Explanation- I’m not willing to continue destroying the economy for less than 1% of the population
So you would be willing to sacrifice your mother and your father for the sake of our economy? It’s worth it?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:46 pm to Klark Kent
The whole point of social distancing is to prevent the overload of the healthcare system. If you let everyone out, you will overload the healthcare system and more people will die than if you play out the longer route. If you want to end social distancing, you have to do something to lessen the burden on the healthcare system. For all those advocating an immediate opening, What are your plans to do that? How are we going to prevent overburdening our hospitals?
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:48 pm to StatMaster
We are taking extraordinary measures to lessen the burden on the healthcare system. PPE manufacturing is in high gear and TONS of vents are being manufactured as well.
You want the curve to be below the amount of resources. Well we are doing everything we can to increase the amount of resources.
You want the curve to be below the amount of resources. Well we are doing everything we can to increase the amount of resources.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:50 pm to Darth_Vader
Reopen tomorrow and impose heavy tariffs on Chinese products. Use that money to repair the economy.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:51 pm to Darth_Vader
Open.
Recommend 65+ restrict their movements, also those with issues that we know are a problem....obese, diabetic, high blood pressure not controlled.
Get everyone else moving now.
Recommend 65+ restrict their movements, also those with issues that we know are a problem....obese, diabetic, high blood pressure not controlled.
Get everyone else moving now.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:52 pm to StatMaster
i don't support immediately opening. read my other posts.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:53 pm to The Spleen
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Define adequate.
Enough to where people with symptoms, or have been around someone with symptoms, can go to their primary doc and get a test, and get results relatively quickly.
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And what if it takes until like June or even July to have enough rest kits?
Then that is an unfortunate reality.
If we keep this going that long, then we won’t have to worry about reopening everything because there will be nothing left to reopen. We will be in Mad Max/Walking Dead territory at that point.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:53 pm to Darth_Vader
Keep it shut. If not all of this will have been for nothing. Get past the peak, look at the real numbers and see what can be opened to prevent a drastic increase in number for the second peak.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:55 pm to TimeOutdoors
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Keep it shut. If not all of this will have been for nothing. Get past the peak, look at the real numbers and see what can be opened to prevent a drastic increase in number for the second peak.
How many businesses do you think can survive like this into the summer?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:57 pm to TimeOutdoors
I agree.
To open up everything abruptly could undo everything at this point......Lets hit May and re-assess.
To open up everything abruptly could undo everything at this point......Lets hit May and re-assess.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:58 pm to Tiger985
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Recommend 65+ restrict their movements, also those with issues that we know are a problem....obese, diabetic, high blood pressure not controlled.
This is the slippery slope.
In Kentucky alone, you have (per CDC) 395,345 adults with asthma. Roughly another 100,000 more that are children. Approximately 531,646 adults in Kentucky have diabetes. As of 2018, Kentucky’s total population is 4.4 million. That’s a very large chunk of “at risk” people. And that’s not including state specific HBP stats.
On average in the US, 32.2% of people have HBP (definition: Have been told by a doctor they have high BP).
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:58 pm to Darth_Vader
I am saying by May 1. Anyone still infected, or at risk, will need to quarantine for 2 more weeks.
I do think we need to continue to have social distancing as a new way of life, and stores are going to have to police the number of people allowed inside, and probably how long they stay.
I do think we need to continue to have social distancing as a new way of life, and stores are going to have to police the number of people allowed inside, and probably how long they stay.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:59 pm to CharlesLSU
People need to stop thinking everything is going to be opened back up “abruptly”
It will be done in phases
And that process should begin once we get 2 weeks of decline
It will be done in phases
And that process should begin once we get 2 weeks of decline
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:00 pm to Darth_Vader
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How many businesses do you think can survive like this into the summer?
A hell of a lot more than can survive if we are stupid and open everything back up only to have huge increases in deaths that force everything to shut back down. Why go back to step one if we can do this wisely?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:04 pm to TimeOutdoors
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How many businesses do you think can survive like this into the summer?
A hell of a lot more than can survive if we are stupid and open everything back up only to have huge increases in deaths that force everything to shut back down. Why go back to step one if we can do this wisely
That’s the Catch 22 of the situation. There are very few companies that can last like this if we continue as we are now into the summer. If we are still shut down by then, most companies will be done. We’re talking the complete economic collapse of the country. It will make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.
Then what will we do?
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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and see what can be opened to prevent a drastic increase in numbers for the second peak.
Think you missed this. A complete economic collapse? We have been shut down and we are not even down to Obama level numbers.
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