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re: When it comes to your job, what do you value more - time or money?

Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:36 pm to
Working two late nights (the only time during the week you get with kids) and weekends (the only days you get with kids) for an extra 5 days of PTO and an extra $20k (before taxes)?

What are you going to spend that $15k on that makes up for missing that time with young kids? A baller $10k vacation once a year with that 5 days? Do you think that’s what your kids would want rather than their dad home and around them?

Now, obviously, if you have a lot of debt and that $ can go a long way to paying it down, saving you interest rates and putting your family on a more secrete place financially then that could make the sacrifice more worth it in the short term, potentially
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:36 pm to
I assume Situation A isn’t guaranteed money if you have to put in that time. If it was salary it wouldn’t require weekends and nights.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5080 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:36 pm to
I took a jump like yours at the beginning of the year. Not quite the pay delta that you have in this example but it was enough (15-20k ish)

After working in example A for about 6 months, I had an opportunity to move to a salary position that resembles B. Just from my experience, the time and freedom I had with less pay outweighs the money I would've made.

Just being able to make plans and get things done is worth it to me.
Posted by BhamBlazeDog
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2018
3798 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

B) $75k a year with potential $25k-$30k annual bonuses and 2 weeks of PTO but off every weekend and night



Both of these options kind of suck, two weeks of PTO is nothing, but I guess I would pick this one. You don't get time back.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11700 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:42 pm to
I mean I guess I would take option B

But both those options aren’t great. I’d be figuring out exactly what I needed to do to hit that bonus though
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3565 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:43 pm to
I’d keep looking. Neither.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
1481 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:43 pm to
If I’m young and the kids are still infants, I’m taking the $125k, living on 60k, saving and investing. Once the kids turn around 5-7 and start playing sports, I will quite and downgrade to the $75k job, have plenty already saved for college and live comfortably.
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2800 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:44 pm to
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110k-$120k a year with 3 weeks of PTO but working almost every weekend and two late nights a week

Bump it to $500k and you got a deal
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14035 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:46 pm to
frick scenario A.

I work less half of my weekends for the year and that’s too many.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130435 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:47 pm to
My brother, you will NEVER get that time back.

They are only little so long. The money you'll make won't be worth the time you'll miss. Trust me.

I did turnarounds and plant life for about half of their life and regret it so much now.
These last 7 years, I've made less money, but I've been home every night pretty much. I gave them lullabies. We played. Went camping.

I made some mistakes, but choosing the time over money wasn't one of them


ETA: this was in an old note he wrote to his teacher


Broke my heart.

At Christmas they'd ask for Dad to be Home in their letters to Santa.

I didn't realize how little time I was getting with them.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16647 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:47 pm to
Happiness, which is a blend of time, money, and enjoying the work.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70349 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

You have young kids and a wife
If you’re so smart, post pics of her.

Hypothetically that might make a difference in my opinion.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21727 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

working almost every weekend and two late nights a week
quote:

but off every weekend and night

Considering those times are when anything going on with the kids will be, I'd definitely take a little bit lower salary (with bonus possibilities to make almost as much vintage your example) and free time when family things are actually going on.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22387 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:55 pm to
What if I make 120k, 4 weeks PTO, and never work nights or weekends?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21338 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “15 – 20 years.”

“But what then?” Asked the Mexican.


The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

A) $110k-$120k a year with 3 weeks of PTO but working almost every weekend and two late nights a week


Yeah this company can go frick itself.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98424 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:05 pm to
The one where I don’t work nights and weekends

Screw that
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38648 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:05 pm to
Love that one.


Reminds me of ski bums/instructors, fly fishing guides and the like.

Yea they don’t make much money, but they are out there doing something most other people dream of and work most of their lives to be able to do in their retirement years.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
189252 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:06 pm to
C WINNING TEH LOTTERY AND BANGIN' WHORES
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:12 pm to
Bro, I don’t have young kids or a wife, and I still chose B when given basically this choice at entry level years ago

A is batshit
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