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re: "When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?"

Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:56 pm to
I didn’t say that he would necessarily be found guilty.

Being tried and spending $100s of thousands on legal defense then dealing with a civil suit would strip him of everything he worked so hard to get.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3717 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:58 pm to
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I bet 12 of my fellow citizens would say otherwise


If they’re stealing something and not threatening you while doing it I’ll bet you they won’t say otherwise

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Anyhow, I'm making my move, chips fall where they may and I don't feel the least bit bad about it.


They’ll fall with your life being fricked because you wanna be a tough guy and not many people will feel the least bit bad about it
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

I didn’t say that he would necessarily be found guilty.

Being tried and spending $100s of thousands on legal defense then dealing with a civil suit would strip him of everything he worked so hard to get.


I guess I am not too worried about the legal defense as mine would be free....civil suit, I don't think the family would get anything.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:01 pm to
should have stolen a car in New Jersey

New Jersey has just implemented 6 Gun Control Measures including:

—Background checks for private gun sales

—Lower magazine capacity to 10

—Residents must show "justifiable need" to get a carry permit

—No body-armor-penetrating ammunition
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

I guess I am not too worried about the legal defense as mine would be free


Well then your experience is limited.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

should have stolen a car in New Jersey

New Jersey has just implemented 6 Gun Control Measures including:

—Background checks for private gun sales

—Lower magazine capacity to 10

—Residents must show "justifiable need" to get a carry permit

—No body-armor-penetrating ammunition


*Note to self: Never move to Jersey*
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:03 pm to
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I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead.”


Society would have rathered you not have kids, but that didn’t work out.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11248 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Your life is far easier, FAAAAAARRRR easier to let them take the car



This all day. That's with any material object that can be replaced. The only way I pull the trigger is if my life is in danger or my family is in danger. That's it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:05 pm to
Nah I’ll just shoot them. Texas law protects me.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46693 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Are you disagreeing with that?


No, I'm saying you're making the exact same "ya, but..." argument that others have used to blame the woman for being raped.

There is only one person at fault in either scenario: the criminal.


Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31624 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:12 pm to
Here’s a fun fact. No matter the circumstances, chances are little pookie would be prepping for college right now had he not chosen to steal a car.

Actions have consequences. Sometimes the consequences are extreme and unfortunate. However he put himself in the situation where something bad could happen by making that choice.

So if you want to have a real conversation about the cause of this issue, I’ll listen on the validity of the fire chief to open fire. Otherwise, my response is simply this:
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71839 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:15 pm to
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No, I'm saying you're making the exact same "ya, but..." argument that others have used to blame the woman for being raped.


What I am saying should not even be called an argument. All of my posts can be summarized with this:

If you want to mitigate the risk of your car being stolen, don't leave it unlocked, running, and unattended.

Feel free to tackle whatever straw man makes you feel better, but if you're trying to turn that statement into an argument, you're either unintelligent or a troll.

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There is only one person at fault in either scenario: the criminal.


No shite. Clearly you've misunderstood much of what I've said in this thread.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112583 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Actions have consequences. Sometimes the consequences are extreme and unfortunate. However he put himself in the situation where something bad could happen by making that choice.

So if you want to have a real conversation about the cause of this issue, I’ll listen on the validity of the fire chief to open fire. Otherwise, my response is simply this:
White people are pretty racist

It was all fun and games when tweeter stole a running car and put his dick on the glass at the Kiwanis Club

Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:18 pm to
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In Texas, one can use deadly force not just to protect a person, but also to protect personal property, including to “retrieve stolen property at night,” during “criminal mischief in the nighttime” and even to prevent someone who is fleeing immediately after a theft during the night or a burglary or robbery, so long as the individual “reasonably” thinks the property cannot be protected by other means. The law has been the basis for not pressing charges against individuals who shoot and kill suspected car burglars, and an individual suspected of stealing copper wiring from a car.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138847 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:19 pm to
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was all fun and games when tweeter stole a running car and put his dick on the glass at the Kiwanis Club

those nekkid girls were definitely not 18 in the back of that cruiser
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71839 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:22 pm to
For what it's worth, and only responding very specifically to your gif, it is illegal to leave your car idling and unattended in Illinois.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:24 pm to
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elprez00


Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:27 pm to
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Nah I’ll just shoot them. Texas law protects me


Probably true, but I remember the famous Joe Horn case in Pasadena, Tx. Thieves were robbing his neighbors house and he shot both of them dead in the front yard. He was cleared by a grand jury, but later said he wished he had never pulled the trigger because it basically made his life hell. Not worth it if your life isn't being threatened.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14866 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:33 pm to
Her comments alone should be grounds for immediate sterilization, as a public service. No one that stupid should be allowed to reproduce.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19961 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:43 pm to
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This is not the majority of cases like this.


Many states, including LA and IL, are castle doctrine states with civil immunity if the shooting is found to be justified. Some of you need to actually learn the laws before putting in your $0.02
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