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re: "When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?"
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:31 pm to rowbear1922
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:31 pm to rowbear1922
He shot through the driver side window.
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:33 pm to GRTiger
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Who didn't see that false equivocation coming a mile away?
It's not false equivocation. It's the exact same argument. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's the same.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:34 pm to Scooba
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a car inst worth shooting someone over IMO.
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That's a lot of down votes for a common sense post
I know this is the OT, where everyone wipes their butt with $100 bills but in my world, where I work my arse off, the effort I put into earning enough money to buy that new vehicle is what that kid stole.
That is what I'm killing him for, each and every time and I wouldn't apologize to anyone for it.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to TH03
Into the chest. Not the side, not the back....the chest. I can stand next to the path of an oncoming vehicle as it is coming at me and shoot through a drivers window and hit someone in the chest.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to Centinel
dont be a moron
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:37 pm to reverendotis
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where I work my arse off, the effort I put into earning enough money to buy that new vehicle is what that kid stole.
yikes then for your sake dont kill anyone over it. Your lawyer fees will be high.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:37 pm to greenwave
Explain to me the difference.
Both say the victim of the crime should have not behaved in such a way so that they become a more "lucrative" target as it were.
Both say the victim of the crime should have not behaved in such a way so that they become a more "lucrative" target as it were.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:40 pm to Centinel
No, it's not even close to exact.
Provocative dress is more akin to simply having a fancy, new car.
Leaving your car running, unlocked, and unattended is more akin to a girl sitting naked on the sidewalk with her legs spread apart.
Still not justified, but very poor decision making.
Your post would work better if responding to someone who said, "You wouldn't have gotten your car stolen if you didn't have a nice car."
Provocative dress is more akin to simply having a fancy, new car.
Leaving your car running, unlocked, and unattended is more akin to a girl sitting naked on the sidewalk with her legs spread apart.
Still not justified, but very poor decision making.
Your post would work better if responding to someone who said, "You wouldn't have gotten your car stolen if you didn't have a nice car."
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:42 pm to reverendotis
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where I work my arse off, the effort I put into earning enough money to buy that new vehicle is what that kid stole.
And you’ll lose everything when you go to jail.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:42 pm to GRTiger
Irrelevant. You're blaming the victim for their actions and choices in both scenarios.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:44 pm to TH03
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And you’ll lose everything when you go to jail.
Apparently not since he isn't charged with anything
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:46 pm to reverendotis
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I know this is the OT, where everyone wipes their butt with $100 bills but in my world, where I work my arse off, the effort I put into earning enough money to buy that new vehicle is what that kid stole.
That is what I'm killing him for, each and every time and I wouldn't apologize to anyone for it.
No one in the prison you’ll be in will care about your apology anyway, so you won’t have to worry about that
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:46 pm to PCRammer
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I get why some would shoot. I however, probably would have left my firearm where it was. The shooters life will be forever changed even though the choice he made was lawful. I would not want that on my conscience.
Killing someone who is carjacking me would not affect my conscience one iota. I wouldn't have fired either though because of the potential legal consequences alone.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:47 pm to rowbear1922
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Apparently not since he isn't charged with anything
This is not the majority of cases like this.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:48 pm to TH03
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And you’ll lose everything when you go to jail
I bet 12 of my fellow citizens would say otherwise.
Anyhow, I'm making my move, chips fall where they may and I don't feel the least bit bad about it.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:49 pm to rowbear1922
This firefighter isn’t. Most cases, the shooter is.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:50 pm to Centinel
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You're blaming the victim for their actions and choices in both scenarios.
Ignoring the implications of your word choice of "blame," is this not common sense? Who is accountable for your decisions? Or did you mean to incorrectly assume I am "blaming" the victim for what happens to them?
Are you unable to think on a spectrum?
Dressing provocatively or driving a nice car is not necessarily an unreasonable or high risk choice, especially relative to the other situations I described. Are you disagreeing with that?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:53 pm to TH03
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This firefighter isn’t. Most cases, the shooter is.
I would disagree.
There was a case in BR just today where a man was sentenced for shooting into a car but he literally ran outside after the "victim" and began shooting into the car.
If you do exactly as the Lieutenant did, you would be found not guilty if it went to court.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:54 pm to reverendotis
Basically it boils down to this.
If you kill someone for stealing your car and your life isn't in danger you'll most likely have huge legal bills, emotional tole (and don't act like you wouldn't you have no idea), possible jail time, the threat of victims family members retaliating, dealing with police, paperwork, court time on and on.
I'll let them take my car, file a police report, and go get my insurance check and move on.
If you kill someone for stealing your car and your life isn't in danger you'll most likely have huge legal bills, emotional tole (and don't act like you wouldn't you have no idea), possible jail time, the threat of victims family members retaliating, dealing with police, paperwork, court time on and on.
I'll let them take my car, file a police report, and go get my insurance check and move on.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:55 pm to greenwave
quote:Yep.
Basically it boils down to this.
If you kill someone for stealing your car and your life isn't in danger you'll most likely have huge legal bills, emotional tole (and don't act like you wouldn't you have no idea), possible jail time, the threat of victims family members retaliating, dealing with police, paperwork, court time on and on.
I'll let them take my car, file a police report, and go get my insurance check and move on.
Your life is far easier, FAAAAAARRRR easier to let them take the car
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