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re: What’s with the revisionist history on Christopher Columbus?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The natives of the lands Columbus came across wouldn't have killed every last man on that boat if they could. They were an altruistic society violated by the West.
Duh. Haven’t you ever heard of thanksgiving?
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:02 pm to tLSU
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Are we already nearing the part of the year where left wing nuts throw a tantrum about Columbus
Who can keep track. It’s been a nonstop tantrum since 11/16
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:12 pm to QJenk
The Indians were basically illegal immigrants. They had no paperwork to be there, whereas Columbus had a papal bull and a writ of sealing from the queen
In fact most illegal immigrants today are descended from Indians
In fact most illegal immigrants today are descended from Indians
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Will you call yourself a terrible person then because there's almost a 100% chance people 400 years from now that's how people will view you.
Nice try, but theres a 100% chance i have not and will not ever participate in murder and slavery.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:15 pm to QJenk
Yeah whatever afreaux
How’s that Xavier degree going?
How’s that Xavier degree going?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:16 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Do you not understand what "being a decent human being" meant then is not the same as today?
Those people - both conqueror and conquered - lived by a very different moral framework - one in which "being a decent human being" according to your standards had zero reference - than someone like you who was raised in 20th and 21st century America
I get that it totally had a different definition back then. But wrong is wrong, and I will not ever excuse it or look past it.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:17 pm to QJenk
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Nice try, but theres a 100% chance i have not and will not ever participate in murder and slavery.
But how do you know what people 400 years from now will consider a terrible person?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:17 pm to QJenk
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Nice try, but theres a 100% chance i have not and will not ever participate in murder and slavery.
And I guarantee there is something you do today, that 600 years from now will be seen as barbaric and horrid, assuming western society still keeps progressing. Which I don't think it will.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:21 pm to High C
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But how do you know what people 400 years from now will consider a terrible person?
Killing, enslaving and torturing people for no reason at all is something that is always a terrible thing. No matter what time period.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:23 pm to QJenk
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Killing, enslaving and torturing people for no reason at all is something that is always a terrible thing. No matter what time period.
Well it wasnt considered that as recently as about 200 years ago.
People will say the same things about things we do in 500 years. Are you stupid or just too fricking dense to understand that?
Eta: and the lines of right and wrong are blurred when it's either enslave and kill or be enslaved and killed. Obviously slavery is wrong, I don't know one person that thinks otherwise, but that shite wasn't so simple then.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:25 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well it wasnt considered that as recently as about 200 years ago.
People will say the same things about things we do in 500 years. Are you stupid or just too fricking dense to understand that?
Exactly. 200 years from now intentionally misgendering someone will be the equivalent of forible rape.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Morality on these such as gender, gay marriage, alcohol use, monogamy or polygamy changes.
Morality on murder does not change. Just because other folks said it was ok to murder someone back then does not mean it was ever really ok. It just so happens to be that the world was filled with murderous psychopaths. That's a big deal. Whether or not we call Bruce, Bruce or Kaitlyn is not nearly the same.
Morality on murder does not change. Just because other folks said it was ok to murder someone back then does not mean it was ever really ok. It just so happens to be that the world was filled with murderous psychopaths. That's a big deal. Whether or not we call Bruce, Bruce or Kaitlyn is not nearly the same.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:43 pm to QJenk
I understand your argument completely, but I think you're missing the point that others are trying to make.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:46 pm to SabiDojo
Slaughterhouses, excessive waste, and excessive fossil fuel consumption are sure to be considered barbaric in the upcoming centuries
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:46 pm to QJenk
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Morality on these such as gender, gay marriage, alcohol use, monogamy or polygamy, and slavery changes.
FIFY
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:46 pm to Pectus
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God didn't know moonlight and sunlight comes from the same source?
Is the light at night provided by the moon? Not withstanding whether it is directly or indirectly.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:49 pm to High C
The passage would then read "a great light" and not two.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:51 pm to QJenk
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Morality on murder does not change.
Well, it in fact does. The duel was an honorable act not all that long ago.
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Whether or not we call Bruce, Bruce or Kaitlyn is not nearly the same.
Not to you, but it might be in the future.
By the way, you answered my earlier question, you're too stupid.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:53 pm to QJenk
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Morality on murder does not change.
Morality on murder within the in-group has not changed, but morality on whether or not it is acceptable to kill and displace members of an out-group has.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 6:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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By the way, you answered my earlier question, you're too stupid.
He's not stupid, he's just emotionally invested in this topic, and I understand why.
But that's the problem with debating a subject when you're emotionally invested...reason and logic go out the window.
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