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re: What’s with the revisionist history on Christopher Columbus?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:17 pm to Centinel
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:17 pm to Centinel
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will never understand the incessant need for progressives to judge people who lived hundreds of years ago by the morals of today.
But to be fair textbooks were all sanitized for us (me) back in the 70's. Everyone was a folk hero type. Indians taught us how to grow corn and in return we cooked them a kickass lunch. Pass the crayons and Elmer's please.
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:18 pm to Centinel
Look it up fool
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:20 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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Why not tell the truth about all American history?
What does chris columbus have to do with american history?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:22 pm to TulaneFan
What about Cortes, Pizarro, or practically any other European "explorer" from Columbus forward?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:23 pm to TulaneFan
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The things I posted in the OP actually did happen
I'd love to see some documentation on these mass suicides.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:23 pm to High C
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What about Cortes, Pizarro, or practically any other European "explorer" from Columbus forward?
What about Bartholomew Columbus?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:24 pm to TulaneFan
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Look it up fool
All I found was an article on retardedhottakes.com and it looks a little fishy.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:27 pm to TulaneFan
This is a bad thread. Life was cheap back then and anyone that wasn't a ruthless motherfricker would not be in the history books at all, much less with the notoriety of Columbus.
You couldn't be a wilting daisy to hop a ship with a bunch of savages and sail across the ocean in uncharted waters to your very likely death.
The explorers were all crazy madmen.
You couldn't be a wilting daisy to hop a ship with a bunch of savages and sail across the ocean in uncharted waters to your very likely death.
The explorers were all crazy madmen.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
One of the best point guards we ever had before he became Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:36 pm to oleheat
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One of the best point guards we ever had before he became Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
Wow.
Shaquille Jackson would be upset about that
And so would pistol phillip
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:37 pm to OysterPoBoy
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If it wasn’t for Columbus there would be no America and they would still be called Indians
The term is literally derived from Columbus
Louis CK - White People & Indians
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:40 pm to StealthCalais11
Native American Poulation after arrival of the Europeans
Columbus didn't do all that, he just got it started.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:41 pm to TulaneFan
I love how people try to look at 15th century social norms through the lens of 21st century SJW outrage culture
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:41 pm to Centinel
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The things I posted in the OP actually did happen
I'd like some documentation on the "made 50k natives off themselves" tidbit.
Sounds like from the OP's standpoint, Columbus = Thanos. Calm down bro.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:43 pm to TulaneFan
You have to take the good with the bad. Pretty much all heroes throughout history accomplished great things but also had some skeletons in the closet.
Nobody is perfect, and we all have to make tough choices in life while weighing the possible benefits of those choices against the possible negative impacts that will be produced by that course of action.
Nobody is perfect, and we all have to make tough choices in life while weighing the possible benefits of those choices against the possible negative impacts that will be produced by that course of action.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:45 pm to High C
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Columbus didn't do all that, he just got it started.
Smallpox and other European diseases are the culprit. Has zero to do with any “atrocities” columbo did or didn’t do
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:46 pm to TulaneFan
Columbus was a courageous and imperfect man who traversed the open waters in search of the Indies and discovered a New World comprised of both peaceful and savage natives.
It’s foolish and naive to criticise Columbus of 1490 based on the societal norms of 2018.
It’s foolish and naive to criticise Columbus of 1490 based on the societal norms of 2018.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:46 pm to tonydtigr
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Sounds like from the OP's standpoint, Columbus = Thanos. Calm down bro.
But Thanos did nothing wrong
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:53 pm to TulaneFan
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TulaneFan
Tell husband to give you a hug.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:02 pm to TulaneFan
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Look it up fool
I'm not seeing anywhere where 50,000 natives killed themselves just to escape him. In reality, he probably only "killed" maybe about few hundred on the island. He was harsh, but the Spanish were real bastards in the early days and a lot of atrocities were done by other Spaniards on Hispaniola.
He did enslave a lot of Taino and also shipped off a lot to Europe as slaves. He was normal for the time. When the Spanish gained control of Mexico, the carnage was even more wanton.....also the Europeans killed off a lot of indigenous types indirectly through disease that the natives had not built up any immunity to. That killed far more than any direct action.....same thing happened in New Zealand on a lesser scale to the Maori
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