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re: What’s with the revisionist history on Christopher Columbus?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:26 pm to OweO
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:26 pm to OweO
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Correct, he thought he was in India and didn't realize at first, that he reached new land. And since the natives looked similar to people from India, he thought they were Indians. And referred to them as Indians.
Dude, he didn't think he was in India. He thought that he was in the Indies, a group of islands off the coast of China that Marco Polo described. Polo isn't recognized enough for the motivation for exploration that he provided.
Not just a pool game.
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:27 pm to TulaneFan
Who you think i is, Chistopher Columbo?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:36 pm to White Bear
This guy did a lot of discovering, too.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:46 pm to TulaneFan
History is nearly always a heavily sugarcoated version told by the victors.
Yes, Columbus was basically a murderous thug. OTOH when you're marching into new territory heavily outnumbered by the natives with no backup from home that is often a winning strategy, maybe the only one.
Winners do whatever they can. If that means being nice and polite, fine. If it means being nasty and brutish, so be it. The goal is to win if you can, or at least survive.
Champions might smile and be pleasant, but it's a lion's smile.
Yes, Columbus was basically a murderous thug. OTOH when you're marching into new territory heavily outnumbered by the natives with no backup from home that is often a winning strategy, maybe the only one.
Winners do whatever they can. If that means being nice and polite, fine. If it means being nasty and brutish, so be it. The goal is to win if you can, or at least survive.
Champions might smile and be pleasant, but it's a lion's smile.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:51 pm to foshizzle
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Champions might smile and be pleasant, but it's a lion's smile.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:06 pm to Centinel
^This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:12 pm to TulaneFan
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He was known for commiting atrocities such as genocide against the native Americans
Historical civilized culture building to-do list:
1. subdue native brown savage population
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:14 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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Historical civilized culture building to-do list:
Hell not even just historical civilized culture.
New brown savage population to-do list:
1. subdue existing native brown savage population.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:17 pm to Centinel
One small genocide and all of a sudden you’re the a-hole nowadays??
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:18 pm to Centinel
Yeah, that's not gonna happen unless the sky screamers are right.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:21 pm to High C
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Yeah, that's not gonna happen unless the sky screamers are right.
I was speaking more towards the entire history of the new world prior to Columbus.
New brown people come over the land bridge from Asia, and conquer the existing brown people. Rinse and repeat for a few thousands years or more.
Like I said, what we call the "first peoples" in North America aren't even the true first peoples. They conquered the people who conquered the people who conquered (add a few more) the first people here.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:25 pm to Centinel
Henry VII told him to GTFO
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:26 pm to TulaneFan
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:26 pm to Centinel
Can you identify those "first peoples"? I'm really curious about who you think they are. Links would be nice
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:37 pm to High C
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Can you identify those "first peoples"?
Generally accepted as the Pre-Clovis paleoindians who lived on Berengia prior to migrating to the North American continent.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:54 pm to Centinel
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Pre-Clovis paleoindians who lived on Berengia prior to migrating to the North American continent.
Isn’t there some evidence on the east coast of some European pre Clovis settlements?
LINK
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There is also a controversial variant of the coastal migration model, put forward by archaeologists Dennis Stanford at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC and Bruce Bradley at the University of Exeter, UK. Called the Solutrean hypothesis, it suggests that coastal migration from Asia could have been supplemented by parallel migrations across the Atlantic, bringing stone-tool technologies from present-day Spain and southern Europe to eastern North America.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:14 am to white perch
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:37 am to TulaneFan
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This is also a falsehood. He didn’t discover shite
Actually, he did.
We call it Haiti.
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