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re: What would it take for America to get better railway service?

Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:43 pm to
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in Europe you can get anywhere under 2 hours max by train.


This isn't even close to true.

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Chicago to NOLA? That's 8+ via Amtrak


That's like going from Paris to Rome... the high speed train option is over 11 hours.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:43 pm to
Nuke big oil
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34118 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:46 pm to
Less corruption. This is actually one thing that can help with housing issues. Spread us out and give us an option to get to work in a timely manner
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30560 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:51 pm to
If some airlines went out of business, or stopped flying to smaller cities, trains might be needed. How long would it take for the trains to be like the airlines, where you feel like cattle. They would probably have to cram as many people in as possible from day one, to offset their startup costs.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50125 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Like in Europe you can get anywhere under 2 hours max by train.



Paris to Berlin is around 8.5 hours.

You were saying?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18134 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Go back in time and put rail lines in along with the interstate when Eisenhower built it in the fifties.


And then put tolls on those Interstates.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:50 pm to
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It is much better than America though.


Yeah that’s why European immigrants keep coming here. Cause Europe is so much better.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
66030 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:53 pm to
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What would it take for America to get better railway service?
Demographics play a role in transportation in the US.

Commercial air travel used to be the province of certain folks, it is no longer.

Private aviation has grown as a result of this evolution.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424579 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Shrink the distances between population centers... fill up the empty spaces between population centers.


You have this backwards.

For effective train travel, you need super-congregation in populated areas and emptiness between them (so trains go vroom there)
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74560 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Like in Europe you can get anywhere under 2 hours max by train



Its 10hrs from Paris to Rome
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19145 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 5:00 pm to
There's probably a market to connect regional airports to major hubs (like Tuscaloosa-Birmingham to Atlanta) but not much else.

Europeans like to act like it doesn't take 10+ hours to get to get from Paris to Berlin by train when in reality that's just NYC to Cleveland
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24421 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 6:21 pm to
We fricked up.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5396 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Like in Europe you can get anywhere under 2 hours max by train

Madrid to Barcelona was double that and had to wear a mask the entire trip in July... never again
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48971 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 6:47 pm to
Nobody travels between Nola and Chicago other than for vacation or business and most of those people fly.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 6:48 pm
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33971 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 6:59 pm to
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Nobody travels between Nola and Chicago other than for vacation or business and most of those people fly.
nobody really travels anywhere other than for vacation or business
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10662 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:05 pm to
For one thing, getting people to WORK for Amtrak has become increasingly difficult.

Amtrak has stopped its service in the Pacific NW bc they say they can’t staff the trains or find enough people to maintain them

Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10662 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:06 pm to
Texas is bigger than France and France is the biggest country in Europe (except Russia)
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1254 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:01 pm to
American’s love freedom and the convenience of having their own car. Rail will never be a serious option in my opinion. People are going to drive if it’s less than 8 hours and if more they’ll fly. Business people can’t afford the time and will fly if it’s more than 4-5 hours to drive. Trains need to move freight.
Posted by Oldirontides51
Member since Jan 2020
22 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:07 pm to
The part about Chicago to New Orleans is also very misleading.
He did say 8+ hours true enough. Better add a lot of hours to that 8.
IF it's on schedule, and that's a big if, you're looking at more like 20 hrs.
Shameful that as technically advanced we are supposed to be that we can't do better than that.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2955 posts
Posted on 8/29/22 at 7:55 am to
A higher population density. There are popular train lines in the United States believe it or not. The only one that is profitable is under 300 miles and will take you through Boston, Connecticut, NYC, New Jersey, Philly, Baltimore, and DC (a corridor with over 35 million people). If the rest of the country was that dense you would almost need trains as driving down highways would take forever.
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