re: What is y'all take on Rottweiler's

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Excuse me? Rotties were the most fatal dog in America.

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OK, and Hitler used to run Germany.

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Their population went from 2nd most popular, to 17th, causing them to be second most deadly in america.

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Where do pits fall on your popularity scale? How about you just give us the ratio of fatalities per capita for each breed?

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My point was, Rotties were actually more deadly than pits, and now they are 2nd, and I correlate that with a population decrease.

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But currently, they aren't even close. 28 to 3 is barely comparable.

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There is nothing hard to follow.

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If you say so.

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there is where i think you are completely wrong.

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So you think in 1-2 generation cycles of breeding, they wiped out the trait in rotties?

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I think we may be leaving more towards a Doberman

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I have one. She's been absolutely great for us.

I'm thinking if someone has to ask how hard they are to control, they don't have the testicle size to control them

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1-2 generation cycles of breeding, they wiped out the trait in rotties?

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by using legal action and other tactics to shutting doen puppy mills who bread bad eggs.. sure.

yeah i came here to say that i grew up around rotties b/c my friend bred them

when this was going on (late 80s-early 90s) rotties were THE violent breed

before that it was dobermans. after that it became pitts

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but more geared from the breeders breeding a better temperamental dog.

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this is part of it. when dogs become popular there is a lot of inbreeding that goes on and it fricks up the line. add in that this popularity is due to the percevied aggressiveness, and you get people training their dogs to be aggressive en masse

when they fall out of favor you get better breeding and better training, which leads to fewer issues

DeadEnd. You said you breed Rotties? If so American or German Bloodlines? The person we where thinking about getting the puppy from has the German bloodline which I like because of the blockhead. But they breed for bite training and I'm not sure if I'm completely comfortable with that. Just because it's a bigger dog than the Dobies I'm use to. I would like one from more of a mellow show line or just someone that breeds for family pets. He has told me and my wife numerous times his dogs have high prey drive.

Poor man's pit bull

Not a good dog for a lot of the people that own them. Need pretty firm owner but they can be very lovable dogs. Would not have a concern about a Rottie biting a kid in the home like you see with the Pits

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My wife has been asking to get one. My neighbors brother has a litter.

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Rottweilers, like any breed of working dog, isn't something you get just cause the wife wants one and the neighbors have a litter. You need to think deeply about why you want this breed, what role it's going to play in the family, what kind of training (& how much) both you & your wife, and if you have kids then them too, can dedicate yourselves to, and then do a ton of research.

This isn't the type of breed to go find at a local family who decided to have a litter, or local breeders for that matter...that's another area you need to research is where you're going to get the dog from. What kind of reputation do they have, what kind of training & certifications do they have as far as their breeding dogs, what kind of bloodlines are they using, what kind of physical health guarantees do they provide for their puppies, etc.?

And I really don't mean this to come across like I'm being a dick, but if you're already thinking about/worrying about the potential damage the dog could do should he get out into the neighborhood, then I would take time & reevaluate your thinking process as to why you want this breed and what kind of effort you're going to be willing to put into the dog. I'm not saying this because Rottweilers will just go nuts if they get loose, but they are a working breed, they have a high drive & that means they are demanding dogs to own & to train and you have to be willing to put in the time if you want to not just have a "safe" Rottweiler, but if you want to get the most out of the breed. Because if you're not interested in the dog because of its inherent traits, if it's just an aesthetic thing or you want a big tough dog to keep the house safe, then why the desire specifically for a Rottweiler in the first place?

Again, I'm just trying to help. I've owned several legit working-line GSD's, clear-headed staples of the breed, not insecure nutjobs from diluted lines who have been bred for show, and I've trained & competed in Schutzhund with each one of them. A working dog can be one of the best things you can experience, but you've gotta know what you're doing & put your time & resources into the dog.