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re: What industries do Louisianians actually want to boost our economy?
Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:52 pm to TigerTatorTots
Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:52 pm to TigerTatorTots
With the exception of carbon capture, none of those industries on your list are problematic. Its the politics behind them and the politicians involved with them that are the problem. Every person in this state fears - with good reason- that no matter what industry comes to Louisiana, the politicians, state govt, state agencies, etc. will do what benefits them and leave the citizens on the shite end of the stick.
Simply look at any of those industries you listed. There isn't a single one, well maybe travel ball coaches, that isn't politically manipulated and controlled at the expense of the citizenry. You can't blame people for being skeptical and wary when they've been taken advantage of for so long. I doubt anyone would be opposed if we had a modicum of faith in our civic leaders. But most don't. That's not on the voters. That's on the institutions.
And it doesn't matter if its Jeff Landry, JBE, Buddy Roemer or EWE in the mansion. The state has proven itself to be untrustworthy- whether thru incompetence or chicanery- for both businesses and taxpayers.
I've heard of steel plants that are supposed to open. Where are they?
Simply look at any of those industries you listed. There isn't a single one, well maybe travel ball coaches, that isn't politically manipulated and controlled at the expense of the citizenry. You can't blame people for being skeptical and wary when they've been taken advantage of for so long. I doubt anyone would be opposed if we had a modicum of faith in our civic leaders. But most don't. That's not on the voters. That's on the institutions.
And it doesn't matter if its Jeff Landry, JBE, Buddy Roemer or EWE in the mansion. The state has proven itself to be untrustworthy- whether thru incompetence or chicanery- for both businesses and taxpayers.
I've heard of steel plants that are supposed to open. Where are they?
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:52 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Do you honestly think things would be BETTER if those plants and refineries were not here? Without those, Louisiana would be orders of magnitude worse off than we are today
Totally agreed. I'm glad they're here, but they're sure as shite not paying their fair share. When their (talking big industry as a whole, not 1 specific company) profits are measured in billions per year, making them pay to improve the roads we drive on to get to their plants seems fair.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:55 pm to HeckIt
They pay something like $2 billion in state and local taxes per year. And why does the government need more money than they already receive? There isn't a worse steward of financial resources than government.
The $2 billion is in reference to the industrial companies, not specifically Shell.
The $2 billion is in reference to the industrial companies, not specifically Shell.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 3:56 pm to TigerTatorTots
Man - - if we only had a shite ton of oil that we could somehow monatize. Yes - - -now that would be cool.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:05 pm to TigerTatorTots
Add SpaceX to that. Apparently that is an issue too
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:09 pm to fallguy_1978
The government is always going to get more money, for better or worse. I'm arguing that the companies raking in, collectively, trillions every year, should be paying a lot more than you and me. Government inefficiencies definitely don't help the money get where it should go, but what's a better option? Entrust companies to do it out of the goodness of their hearts? You could argue they have as much of a need for good roads as you and I do, but I have zero faith that they would act in any way that doesn't generate short-term profit.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:10 pm to jmarto1
Don’t forget Formosa from a few years ago.
No chemical/plastics plants. No data centers. No rocket launching.
Only Wall street finance jobs are good enough for us
No chemical/plastics plants. No data centers. No rocket launching.
Only Wall street finance jobs are good enough for us
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:14 pm to slidingstop
quote:SO your solution is to just say frick it, no more jobs come here? That skepticism will always be here with LA politics. Is the answer to just say "all companies stay away bc we can't trust anyone"? Thats what it sounds like
With the exception of carbon capture, none of those industries on your list are problematic. Its the politics behind them and the politicians involved with them that are the problem. Every person in this state fears - with good reason- that no matter what industry comes to Louisiana, the politicians, state govt, state agencies, etc. will do what benefits them and leave the citizens on the shite end of the stick.
Simply look at any of those industries you listed. There isn't a single one, well maybe travel ball coaches, that isn't politically manipulated and controlled at the expense of the citizenry. You can't blame people for being skeptical and wary when they've been taken advantage of for so long. I doubt anyone would be opposed if we had a modicum of faith in our civic leaders. But most don't. That's not on the voters. That's on the institutions.
And it doesn't matter if its Jeff Landry, JBE, Buddy Roemer or EWE in the mansion. The state has proven itself to be untrustworthy- whether thru incompetence or chicanery- for both businesses and taxpayers.
I've heard of steel plants that are supposed to open. Where are they?
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:14 pm to ragincajun03
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Then why the hell did they vote for him, in such a number where he was elected Governor without even a runoff?
because the candidate Jeff Landry, who campaigned on his record as AG, wasn't the Governor we got. Jeff Landry opposed suing offshore drilling companies while AG, correct? Yet he was more than happy to allow it when it was his "friends" who got to file suit. Candidate Jeff Landry wasn't sucking DJT's dick as publicly nor was he appointing friends, relatives, and cronies to state boards and state agencies.
You think he's the first local politician to campaign as one thing then be something else? Allow me to introduce you to Dr. Bill Cassidy
And I wouldn't discount the help Landry had with a weak field of opponents all vying for the office of one of the slimiest cocksuckers ever to sleep in the mansion (JBE). Landry hasn't been a total disappointment- like the EBR mayor has been- but he's certainly met our expectations for disappointment on more than one occasion.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:41 pm to TigerTatorTots
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SO your solution is to just say frick it, no more jobs come here?
no my solution is to try and attract more manufacturing jobs. Steel plants, chemical plants, refineries, any manufacturing jobs, really. And I'm not opposed to data centers. But pardon me if I am less than enthusiastic when being told about them while state leaders seem less than willing to answer basic questions about the electrical grid that will have to serve them. Again, we the taxpayers will end up eating whatever losses or deleterious effects result from any of these endeavors you listed.
We know the risks involved with manufacturing jobs. And the benefits. We don't know shite about data centers operating in this banana republic.
But if its anything similar to Menhaden fishing, I'd say the majority of citizens are going to be very disappointed.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:51 pm to TigerTatorTots
Manufacturing Industry would be great. Also seems like we would farm more here being that we have an endless supply of water and sun.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:55 pm to slidingstop
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no my solution is to try and attract more manufacturing jobs.
Toyota said no on the exact same place that Meta is at.
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chemical plants,
We ran off Formosa.
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. Again, we the taxpayers will end up eating whatever losses or deleterious effects result from any of these endeavors you listed.
This state was dying a slow death were the primary industry (oil) was being leeched on by the second biggest industry (trial lawyers/litigation) and was going to be bled dry.
At least there is finally some positive momentum.
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