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re: What Happened To The Movie Industry In Louisiana?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80812 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:47 pm to
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Do you know what movie it is? I passed by this morning and the boat launch and Middendorf's were packed with film crews.
Jaws 5
Posted by Last Place Browns
Member since Sep 2018
121 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:08 pm to
i would be a good location scout in BR
but i want to director/writer/actor
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:09 pm to
La reduced tax incentives. Georgia created more. The film business followed the devil down to Georgia. Well... Until the Hollywood shits shoot themselves in the economic foot bc they're pissy about an election.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50016 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Do you know what movie it is? I passed by this morning and the boat launch and Middendorf's were packed with film crews.



No I don't. I went down there last Saturday and it looked like they had just got there. I will find out and post it.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39223 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:15 am to
This thread is a complete 180 from these threads in the past. Everyone used to comment on how the tax incentives were costing the state. Now they miss the business apparently.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141083 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:17 am to
Duck dynasty ended
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43038 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:21 am to
They are still costing the state.

That's been reported by private economists and the legislative auditor.

Film tax credits have risen to entitlement status and lots of folks count on them. They aren't going away any time soon.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59343 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:23 am to
oh look, Chris spouting off false information based on his limited life experiences

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39223 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:35 am to
quote:

They are still costing the state.

That's been reported by private economists and the legislative auditor.

Film tax credits have risen to entitlement status and lots of folks count on them. They aren't going away any time soon.



Has a correlation been shown to affect another sector such as tourism? I always questioned whether it was costing the state and we were seeing benefits elsewhere. Never got a fact based answer one way or another
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:37 am to
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Please explain how not receiving tax dollars translates to 'paying for the production'?

it's a transferable tax credit
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13965 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:41 am to
We were giving away too much money compared to what it was producing. Why some of you think it is bad that we stopped giving away the farm is beyond me.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9187 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:42 am to
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i would be a good location scout in BR but i want to director/writer/actor



Yea I'd like to know where I can get started as an adult entertainer. I have a unique skillset
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7270 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:56 am to
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Has a correlation been shown to affect another sector such as tourism? I always questioned whether it was costing the state and we were seeing benefits elsewhere. Never got a fact based answer one way or another


The effect on tourism is small if anything in most areas. The anecdotal answer is the effect on Tourism in Monroe has been massive.

Tourism impact is very small as evidenced by the fact that you don't see a cottage industry offering tours to various film locations.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39223 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:36 pm to
That is a fair assessment. What about hotels, restaurants, and such benefiting? How much are we spending a year. I known could Google but I am pooping and have some dank memes to peruse
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43038 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:53 pm to
Economists and the Auditor has taken in the so called ripple effect and took that into account. It's still s big loser.

Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
10051 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Edwards


No...it was Piyoch.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
5298 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:56 pm to
pales in comparison to the tax breaks the oil and gas industry gets ... and creates a more creative class in the state that it desperately needs.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43038 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 4:00 pm to
They all benefit, but the state loses, and it loses a lot of money.

The state could have built a bridge over the Mississippi River near BR with the money they lost on movies and had money left over. Think about that.

Now the plan does support jobs, it does slightly help tourism statewide, and there is a ripple effect, but the original plan was to build a self sub staining movie industry and that plan has not worked.

Instead it has become an entitlement in that investor and industry workers are totally dependent on the state.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 4:10 pm to
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Instead it has become an entitlement in that investor and industry workers are totally dependent on the state.


How so?

Serious question. Read the whole thread, but havent seen how it was cost the state actual money. "Out of the state pockets". Not just cuts on future possible tax monies. Outsider looking in, so really wondering. Example would help too. Thx.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43038 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 4:41 pm to
Evidence of the dependency on the state was never more apparent than when the state talked about cut backs, and put more limits on the plan and movie companies quit coming to La.

Reports by the Legislative Auditor and a prominent economist show just how bad of a deal it is because the tax credits provided do not just offset state taxes which are the responsibility of the movie companies, but these credits can be transferred to others or sold to the state treasury for cash.

For instance any La. taxpayer can buy the tax credits from a movie maker to offset their tax obligation. The guy with the tax credits gets paid something like 90 cents on the dollar, and the guy purchasing the credits has their taxes reduced the full amount.

I believe the state only pays 85 cents on the dollar (may have changed) when they buy the credits back so there is a market to sell them for 90 cents on the dollar.

Right now I believe the state can only honor approximately 200 million a year or do in credits even though they could be obligated for more than that.

Here is a recent article on the situation from Nola.com

LINK

There are several studies out there on La. and on other states documenting how big of a loser the program is for the states involved.
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