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re: What do people in Germany think about the D-Day celebrations?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:01 pm to weagle99
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:01 pm to weagle99
Germans have very little national pride because of their past. All my German friends explained this to me in the context of their World Cup win a few years back -- it was the first time in their entire lives they were proud to be German.
Anyways, point is that they probably don't think about D-Day, and if they do they probably think it is a good thing to celebrate because they are ashamed of their role in the war.
Anyways, point is that they probably don't think about D-Day, and if they do they probably think it is a good thing to celebrate because they are ashamed of their role in the war.
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:37 pm to weagle99
It’s been almost 30 years since I was stationed in Germany so I can’t say what it’s like today. But I know in the 80s they mostly either ignored it all together or tried to look at it as the war was just them being a few years ahead of NATO in fighting Communism. In fact I remember talking to an old German dude one night who detailed how the Waffen SS was, in his opinion, the precursor to NATO.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:41 pm to weagle99
Did you see how bad we made Berlin look? Hopefully they clam up and move on with their lives by now
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:22 pm to weagle99
quote:We won.
What do people in Germany think about the D-Day celebrations?
They lost.
Who cares what they think.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:28 pm to weagle99
About like white people in the south feel about MLK day.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:33 am to Darth_Vader
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Darth_Vader
Thank you for sharing that. So what do you think of people on here who believe the Nazis were socialist?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 am to Zappas Stache
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About like white people in the south feel about MLK day.
Yeah. I think about how disappointed he would be.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:37 am to volod
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So what do you think of people on here who believe the Nazis were socialist?
They still had a centrally planned economy. Same mechanism as socialism. Nazis were known as the National Socialist German Workers' Party and economically left wing
Private ownership was in deed only. Production was controlled by the government. Hitler hated both commies and capitalists.
While the factories were privately owned, they had no autonomy. Here's some good reading if you're actually interested, which I doubt
LINK
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:47 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:03 am to volod
Nice troll attempt
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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While the factories were privately owned, they had no autonomy. Here's some good reading if you're actually interested, which I doubt
I'm one of the most left leaning posters on here (which isnt saying much as many of my views are libertarian in nature).
Of course I'm okay reading different perspectives. Matter of fact I'm considering reading a book recently proposed to me that talks about how absolute monarchy is in some ways superior to democratic elections (can't think of the name.)
My issue with the Nazi being socialist argument is that they have too many capitalism qualities (like the IBM and Ford deals). They almost come of as a capitalism-lite in how they conduct business. I can see how that can be downplayed in a controlled economy.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
It really is a good read. Thank you for sharing.
Two points I found very interesting
* The comment made about socialist states forcing people into jobs they mostly dont like to reduce labor shortages. While that isn't a good idea, how is it different from what capitalist countries do?
Many people have jobs they don't want to do in capitalist countries varying from unskilled labor to skilled/degree required work. I'm assuming the only real difference is that the Capitalist allows some form of personal choices. In a free market the truth is there will always be a degree of randomness.
The United States in particular has low job satisfaction for a modern Post-industrial country but it's still better than a socialist state. How do you explain this?
* I like the mention of how Nordic nations only use social democracy as a political ideal but not an economic one. They are indeed capitalist, which many on the right and left of US politics dont acknowledge. It is a "hampered market economy".
The US as it stands is also a hampered market economy, just at the mercy of whoever is currently in government PLUS the intervention of lobbyists and market forces. Since their is so much intervention against the will of the people, how do you surmise Anericans deal with it.
It seems like individual liberty is only as effective as corporate entities allow it to be?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:58 am to DeafJam73
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I do think it’s pretty cool to see German vets meet their former enemies. For the most part, everyone gets along.
I kinda want to see something go down.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:01 am to weagle99
Only losers complain about the celebrations that caused them to be losers.
If they didn’t want there to be celebrations celebrating their defeat then they should have tried harder and won.
If they didn’t want there to be celebrations celebrating their defeat then they should have tried harder and won.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:02 am to weagle99
Germany is probably the most cucked nation on the planet in modern times. Things will come back around with a vengeance unfortunately.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:06 am to Darth_Vader
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Waffen SS was, in his opinion, t
The Reich was absolutely a precursor to the bureaucratic hegemony known as globalism that has ensnared Western Cultures
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:35 am to weagle99
How many veterans can they possibly have alive? I read the other day that of the people who served in our Armed Forces in World War II, only 3% are still alive.
And if there are veterans of the Third Reich, frick em.
And if there are veterans of the Third Reich, frick em.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 5:40 am to BiggerBear
I was talking about DDay specifically.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 5:47 am to DeafJam73
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I do think it’s pretty cool to see German vets meet their former enemies.
If I am a Allied Veteran I would spit in their face, but that is just me.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 5:48 am to volod
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Thank you for sharing that. So what do you think of people on here who believe the Nazis were socialist?
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