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re: What do people in Germany think about the D-Day celebrations?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:47 am to weagle99
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:47 am to weagle99
In Oct I went to Normandy, and as we passed the German cemetery, someone asked our guide if there were many visitors there.
She replied, "Not really."
And went on to explain that the true sadness of it was the age of the German soldiers buried there.
She replied, "Not really."
And went on to explain that the true sadness of it was the age of the German soldiers buried there.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:02 pm to redandright
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Three weeks ago I was visiting Dachau Concentration Camp.
It is full of German school groups, 14 years of age and up. What was done in those camps is drilled into their heads.
BTW if you've never been to one of the camps you should try to go, if you ever have the chance. It was unreal. The original barracks are gone, but they still have the ovens. That was pretty horrible to see.
Arbeit Macht Frei...
Crazy place
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:08 pm to weagle99
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This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 5:46 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:17 pm to weagle99
What do people in Germany think about the D-Day celebrations?
Not sure if I really care about what they think.
Not sure if I really care about what they think.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:46 pm to weagle99
A lot of regular vets were normal guys who fought to defend Germany and didn’t necessarily support Hitler.
I think a good portion are glad the Nazi regime was defeated
I think a good portion are glad the Nazi regime was defeated
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:55 pm to weagle99
I was in London on the Fourth of July years ago and they really didn't celebrate.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:45 pm to weagle99
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Any comparison between Nazi Germany and the Confederacy is silly IMO.
It's not silly.
Both the confederacy and the Nazi regime were founded on the belief of racial superiority, and that lesser races were to be subjugated.
If anything, the Nazis had a little more legitimacy to their military conquest - some of the territory they took back actually did belong to Germany at some point in history.
The state's rights debate that's been invented by confederate apologists hinges upon the belief that the southern states were too ignorant to understand the concept of a United States government.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 4:06 pm to wadewilson
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It's not silly.
Both the confederacy and the Nazi regime were founded on the belief of racial superiority, and that lesser races were to be subjugated.
The Confederacy wasn’t trying to conquer other countries, nor was it exterminating a race of people.
I will remind you that Unites States embraced what today was a racist view when it was founded, and that it took actions to systematically wipe out a race of people also (the Indians).
What other 21st century morals should we be applying to 19th century people? I for one am offended that Abraham Lincoln didn’t do more to stop cyber bullying.
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The state's rights debate that's been invented by confederate apologists hinges upon the belief that the southern states were too ignorant to understand the concept of a United States government.
Secession wasn’t un-Constitutional
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 4:29 pm to DeafJam73
I studied German in High School and College, and visited Germany two years ago for 10 days. I went to Hamburg, Berlin, Munich, and Heidelberg. I think present day Germans do a great job handling their history, and understanding the role they played. They don't celebrate or prop it up, but they do recognize it. At the National German History Museum in Berlin they have their entire history in chronological order but make sure to stop the exhibits before WWII. There is a separate section for WWII completely.
I went on a tour of Dachau while in Munich, and the guide did an excellent job of explaining how they deal with it currently. During the 70's their was a sort of Enlightenment. Many war criminals escaped persecution by disguising themselves as prisoners while the camps were being liberated. The students begin to realize many of their professors and bosses were former Nazis, and they began protesting their employment.
Modern day Germany is an amazing country. Obviously WWII is a huge part of their past, but they do everything they to show who they are today while embracing their past.
I went on a tour of Dachau while in Munich, and the guide did an excellent job of explaining how they deal with it currently. During the 70's their was a sort of Enlightenment. Many war criminals escaped persecution by disguising themselves as prisoners while the camps were being liberated. The students begin to realize many of their professors and bosses were former Nazis, and they began protesting their employment.
Modern day Germany is an amazing country. Obviously WWII is a huge part of their past, but they do everything they to show who they are today while embracing their past.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 6:45 pm to weagle99
Their views have changed over time:
Immediately after - we got our asses handed
Later - we were the bad guys
Now - we were also victims
Immediately after - we got our asses handed
Later - we were the bad guys
Now - we were also victims
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:55 pm to Deuces
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Ignore it and go recruit more 3rd world immigrants to their country.
You act like the same exact thing isn’t happening here.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:03 pm to adambomb
quote:Remember what Margaret Thatcher said related to this.
their (Germans) national identity doesn't exist off the football pitch.
“They might have beaten us at our national sport, but we managed to beat them at their national sport twice in the 20th century.”
(Replying to Kenneth Clarke, who said, "Isn't it terrible about losing to the Germans at our national sport?" when England lost to Germany in the 1990 FIFA World Cup Semi-final.)
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:14 pm to soccerfüt
If I’m going to be completely honest, the attempted genocides of the lesser races (in the Nazi eyes), the German people had some extreme nuts from Frederick the Great to Hitler.
That is not to say that you can excuse their actions in WWII, but they definitely weren’t afraid to gamble.
That is not to say that you can excuse their actions in WWII, but they definitely weren’t afraid to gamble.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:34 pm to weagle99
The ones that really think about probably wish the landing would have been in '43 so they wouldn't have been occupied by the Soviets.
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