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re: What do people in Germany think about the D-Day celebrations?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:17 pm to weagle99
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:17 pm to weagle99
Years ago I met several German vets while traveling in Germany. These were lower ranking regular Wehrmacht soldiers at the time (or at least according to them). One spoke favorably about being an English POW and was simply happy to have survived. They didn't advertise being veterans, but they weren't ashamed for being a regular soldier at age 18. Given how the Americans helped rebuild, and how badly the Soviet Union treated east Germany, they didn't complain with how history unfolded. I didn't meet any hardcore Nazis, though.
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:18 pm to weagle99
I imagine there were many in the Wehrmacht who had no love or particular allegiance to the Nazis but fought for their country nonetheless. It isn't illegal or even politically incorrect to recognize the sacrifices of Soviet soldiers in WWII who fought for an even more brutal regime.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:20 pm to pensacola
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They’re very happy we got to Berlin before Stalin
Hmmm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:21 pm to AU66
quote:at least he knew what side we were on
They’re very happy we got to Berlin before Stalin
Hmmm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:21 pm to Beauregard96
quote:They do this to a fault. They're so ashamed of WW2 that they let everyone steamroll them with shame.
Hopefully they think about how they got their asses kicked by the good guys
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:22 pm to pensacola
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They’re very happy we got to Berlin before Stalin
From what history book did you read this incorrect tidbit?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:23 pm to SCLibertarian
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I imagine there were many in the Wehrmacht who had no love or particular allegiance to the Nazis but fought for their country nonetheless. It isn't illegal or even politically incorrect to recognize the sacrifices of Soviet soldiers in WWII who fought for an even more brutal regime.
This, nor the soldiers who fought for the Confederacy.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:26 pm to GetBackToWork
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I didn't meet any hardcore Nazis, though.
They're still in Argentina.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:27 pm to weagle99
Germans are neither nationalistic nor apologetic for their role in WW2. This is a nation of people who have unchecked immigration to replace their population - their national identity doesn't exist off the football pitch.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:28 pm to weagle99
Who gives a frick what they think
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:29 pm to Zendog
quote:well the OP for one
Who gives a frick what they think
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:29 pm to weagle99
I don't think there is any better country at erasing its own past than Germany.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:29 pm to Kingpenm3
quote:uhhh,, look a little to the east
I don't think there is any better country at erasing its own past than Germany.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:34 pm to OWLFAN86
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well the OP for one
The op probably smoked a bowl about an hour ago
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:34 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
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They’re all Muslim now so probably don’t care
Huh?
Less than 5% of the German population is Muslim.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:34 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
OK, we paused outside Berlin in a pre-arranged deal with Uncle Joe. Still set the framework for a divided Germany and forward leaning Cold War posture.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:40 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Also, it’s not like it’s some huge arse whooping they took. It was bloody for everyone.
It was a huge arse whooping. It came at a high price for the Soviets, but it was a huge arse whooping. It isn't just about deaths but:
Germany had somewhere between 7-7.5 million deaths, both civilian and military, around 10% of their total population.
US lost a little over 400,000.
Of course, most of the meaningful fighting was done by the Soviets - who lost around 20 million people, give or take a few million.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:44 pm to BiggerBear
quote:well the Soviets took some of their own out log before the germans showed up
- who lost around 20 million people, give or take a few million.
Soviets did that killin' in Poland
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:48 pm to weagle99
Angela Merkel was at the D-Day ceremony in the UK.
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