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Wells Fargo: Shareholders can't sue us because they should have known we were lying

Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67903 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:18 pm


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Wells Fargo is adopting an unusual defense against a shareholder lawsuit: claiming, essentially, that shareholders can’t hold the bank accountable for CEO Tim Sloan’s statements that it was “working to restore trust” and be “more transparent” about its scandals – because it should have been obvious that Sloan was lying.

The defense, which Wells Fargo put forth in a legal filing aimed at getting a shareholder lawsuit dismissed, relies on the legal concept of “puffery,” according to a Los Angeles Times report.


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Wells Fargo is now claiming that the “puffery” defense should be applied to statements CEO Tim Sloan made to investors, and that a lawsuit filed by shareholders should be dismissed on those grounds.


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The shareholder lawsuit focuses on efforts by Sloan and other Wells Fargo executives to conceal the auto-loan scandal, the Times reported. Wells Fargo execs were, at the time, already dealing with the bank’s massive fake-accounts scandal. They insisted that Wells Fargo would be “more transparent” about its scandals even while failing to disclose the auto-insurance issue.


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This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 10:31 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12609 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:23 pm to
Insert bold strategy gif.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:27 pm to
That tells you they have no other defense. If they did they would never have let this ridiculous theory see the light of day.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:29 pm to
A Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it. <----- You are here.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28326 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:35 pm to
Shareholders bout to get paid...












....bout $27.35.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62763 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:37 pm to
Amazing how white collar crime just gets laughed off.
I have relatives that were basically fired working for Wells Fargo because they didn't generate enough sales, when they refused to bulldoze the customer.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28051 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:40 pm to
The lawyers who came up with that defense are 100%
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67903 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:23 am to
quote:

A Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it. <----- You are here.


Spot on
Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Arlington, TX
Member since Aug 2011
4516 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:59 am to
And they’ll get away with it
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45804 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:25 am to
Sounds like the chewbacca defense


Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66925 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:05 am to
quote:

Sounds like the chewbacca defense


I think the chewbacca defense actually has more merit. The Wells Fargo defense sounds more like an admission.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:39 am to
Fricking banksters. After 2007/08, we should have imprisoned a few thousand with life sentences, just to get the message across. Nope, we gave them TARP and other BS, and they kept handing out bonuses
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18804 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:04 am to
quote:

Trump's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it. <----- You are here.



Fify

This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 5:05 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:27 am to
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:22 am to
I just came here to say frick wells fargo. I'll never do business with them again after reading some of the stories. When i bought my house last year i told the mortgage broker upfront i will go somewhere else if he tried to quote me a loan from wells fargo.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90571 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:32 am to
Well Fargo is absolute garbage
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84787 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:36 am to
The auto loan scandal coming after the fake accounts was quite the punch to the gut for WF.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:43 am to
quote:

frick wells fargo.


They're one bank I don't even need to look at their offers from. No point as I will never use them.


Also, screw their feel good old time western tv commercials trying to win back the countries trust. I cringe every time I see those lies.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:43 am to
quote:

if he tried to quote me a loan from wells fargo.
They could likely still buy your loan. In most instances, you have no control over that.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2639 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:55 am to
There are plenty of lenders who do in home mortgages now. Just stick with thme
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