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re: We Wuz Native Americans?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:16 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:16 pm to deeprig9
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They are all hell holes.
That's because they run under tribal sovereignty with the tribal government usually running business licenses, courts, housing and some aspects of land. For that last point, most reservation lands are held in a federal land grant and that means individuals cannot easily own or borrow against it. This makes it nearly impossible to get mortgages, start businesses, or use land as collateral.
Now compound that with the fact that on many reservations, the same small group of tribal leaders control politics, courts, police, and economic decisions. The more power you concentrate into fewer hands, the more you risk corruption and nepotism (which is indeed common).
There are a few who have succeeded at making something of their lands (the Mashantucket Pequot or Shakopee Mdewakanton, for example) but it takes good governance and decent locations.
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Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:23 pm to stout
This one's Creek name is "Dances with weaves"
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:23 pm to sitd
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The courts already ruled that...
Their courts numbnuts.
Nothing to do with the US federal courts
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:24 pm to MasterDigger
Everything you love about Native Americans ……………
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:33 pm to MasterDigger
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Nothing to do with the US federal courts
It does.
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It says that Hill and the citizenship board are violating an 1866 treaty between the tribe and the U.S. government by refusing to recognize Black Creek Freedmen as citizens as ordered by the Muscogee Nation Supreme Court in July 2025.
The treaty was between the Indians and the US government. Article 2 is plain as day:
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The Creeks hereby covenant and agree that henceforth neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes, whereof the parties shall have been duly convicted in accordance with laws applicable to all members of said tribe, shall ever exist in said nation; and inasmuch as there are among the Creeks many persons of African descent, who have no interest in the soil, it is stipulated that hereafter these persons lawfully residing in said Creek country under their laws and usages, or who have been thus residing in said country, and may return within one year from the ratification of this treaty, and their descendants and such others of the same race as may be permitted by the laws of the said nation to settle within the limits of the jurisdiction of the Creek Nation as citizens [thereof,] shall have and enjoy all the rights and privileges of native citizens, including an equal interest in the soil and national funds, and the laws of the said nation shall be equally binding upon and give equal protection to all such persons, and all others, of whatsoever race or color, who may be adopted as citizens or members of said tribe.
That's why they're suing.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:33 pm to stout
They need to search Pastor James David Manning, he lectures his brethren on all the things they think they’ve made great.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:38 pm to stout
They introduced the apostrophe to the Creek language.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:38 pm to stout
There’s big money waiting in your mailbox if you’re an official “citizen” of the Muscogee Creek Indian Nation.
They want that casino money.
They want that casino money.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:45 pm to Ghost of Colby
The Creeks should say, 'we have no poll tax, literacy test, etc.
But to be a Creek, you must swim...
But to be a Creek, you must swim...
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:52 pm to sitd
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The treaty was between the Indians and the US government. Article 2 is plain as day:
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The Creeks hereby covenant and agree that henceforth neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, otherwise than in the punishment of crimes, whereof the parties shall have been duly convicted in accordance with laws applicable to all members of said tribe, shall ever exist in said nation; and inasmuch as there are among the Creeks many persons of African descent, who have no interest in the soil, it is stipulated that hereafter these persons lawfully residing in said Creek country under their laws and usages, or who have been thus residing in said country, and may return within one year from the ratification of this treaty, and their descendants and such others of the same race as may be permitted by the laws of the said nation to settle within the limits of the jurisdiction of the Creek Nation as citizens [thereof,] shall have and enjoy all the rights and privileges of native citizens, including an equal interest in the soil and national funds, and the laws of the said nation shall be equally binding upon and give equal protection to all such persons, and all others, of whatsoever race or color, who may be adopted as citizens or members of said tribe.
The Tribal court ruled
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they lacked a lineal native ancestor.
You failed to bold this part
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it is stipulated that hereafter these persons lawfully residing in said Creek country under their laws and usages, or who have been thus residing in said country, and may return within one year from the ratification of this treaty,
Either way, The US federal court does not care what a Tribal court rules or has ruled.
This lawsuit stands on its own without precedence from a prior court.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 7:55 pm to MasterDigger
AP also conveniently ignored the fact that eligibility doesn’t guarantee admission.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 8:54 pm to stout
Obligatory: everything that's good about the Indian nation is because of us.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:59 pm to stout
Native American lineage is pretty strict. I don’t think you can just be descendent and gain access.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:16 pm to stout
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:33 pm to Arthur Bach
Tell your people to stop being dumbasses
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