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re: Vinyl records expected to outsell CDs in 2019 for the first time since 1980s
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:00 pm to VetteGuy
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:00 pm to VetteGuy
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You can't beat the portability of digital music, but it really does lack depth.
Young or old, people that like music know this.
This is a joke right?
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:00 pm to fishfighter
What records do you have? I found a bunch a few years ago that were my parents & siblings.
Have Jackson 5, Jaames Brown, Elvis, etc, etc... And there is even an Oak Ridge Boys album in there.
Have Jackson 5, Jaames Brown, Elvis, etc, etc... And there is even an Oak Ridge Boys album in there.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:01 pm to beerJeep
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Nostalgia doesn’t.
It's this.
I buy vinyl but not for sound quality. No matter how much the armchair audiophiles say otherwise, CDs and MP3s have higher sound quality than a record.
The "depth" some people refer to in vinyl is the distortion and scratchiness that comes from a needle running against dust and grooves on a record. It's not part of the recording.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:02 pm to FLTech
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Actually records have this popping sound because of the vinyl and to me it sounds a lot better than digital
I agree. Especially if you have the right speaker.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:03 pm to stout
Who knew vinyl records would trigger the OT?
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:05 pm to VetteGuy
quote:You're getting some push back but I agree with you 100%
Once young people hear the difference, they're fans.
You can't beat the portability of digital music, but it really does lack depth.
Young or old, people that like music know this.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:05 pm to KosmoCramer
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This is a joke right?
No.. he is right.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:10 pm to OweO
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There are built-in problems with using vinyl as a data encoding mechanisms that have no CD equivalent. Vinyl is physically limited by the fact that records have to be capable of being played without skipping or causing distortion. That both limits the dynamic range — the difference between the loudest and softest note — and the range of pitches (or "frequencies") you can hear.
If notes get too low in pitch, that means less audio can fit in a given amount of vinyl. If notes are too high, the stylus has difficulty tracking them, causing distortion. So engineers mastering for vinyl often cut back on extreme high or low ends, using a variety of methods, all of which alter the music.
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The sampling rate for CDs is 44.1kHz, meaning that CD recordings sample the master recording 44,100 times a second, and can capture frequencies as high as 20 kHz. That is about the limit of what humans can hear; at least one experiment has confirmed that listeners in blind tests can't tell the difference between recordings that include frequencies above 21k and ones that don't. You may think you can hear more than CDs are giving you. But you probably can't.
Look at the science, not people's opinions
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:10 pm to OweO
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This isn't a surprice. Vinyl records have become more popular for the past several years. I know a guy who likes the sound of vinyl, he restored an old record player, rebuilt speakers and everything. It sounds really good.
I love Christmas albums on vinyl. The Charlie Brown Christmas album on vinyl is fricking amazing.
[link=(A Charlie Brown Christmas [Green Vinyl] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002Y1OAJU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oMKRDb916SXGP)]LINK[/link]
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:14 pm to OweO
Old school rock to rock and some blues.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:14 pm to OweO
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This isn't a surprice. Vinyl records have become more popular for the past several years. I know a guy who likes the sound of vinyl, he restored an old record player, rebuilt speakers and everything. It sounds really good.
Also record players have become popular with older kids and no one really buys CDs so...
Your logic used to argue a point is at a 5th grader's level.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:17 pm to BurningHeart
I'm no audio engineer or anything, but I have a feeling what's more important is all the equipment between the media and your ears.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:18 pm to BurningHeart
My point is this. I don’t know the last time I’ve seen a CD player in a store, but I’ve seen small record players. A friend of mine bought one for his daughters a few yrs ago for Christmas. It was pink and looked to be marketed to kids.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:29 pm to stout
One thing that went away when CDs overtook LP sales that seemingly never got fully fulfilled were the album cover and liner notes. A small CD case just could never replace that awesome 12 inch album cover and artwork.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:30 pm to stout
Digital or GTFO.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:32 pm to BurningHeart
I am no audiophile, but the reason why digital has such a bad name is that the file compression in modern CD's, MP3's, and other audio formats is that it takes out some of the warmth and fullness of the sound.
Think of a sound wave as a bouncing curve that is going up and down on a sheet of graph paper. In analog, this soundwave is constant to the speed of the record or tape. In digital, the soundwave replaced by dots or data points and the number of dots is dependent on the number of samples the audio was digitized with. In digital the dots are then reconnected when played back using algorithms. Sometimes that method doesn't always capture the true sound of the music. Obvious the more samples the better the recreation of the sound.
Think of a sound wave as a bouncing curve that is going up and down on a sheet of graph paper. In analog, this soundwave is constant to the speed of the record or tape. In digital, the soundwave replaced by dots or data points and the number of dots is dependent on the number of samples the audio was digitized with. In digital the dots are then reconnected when played back using algorithms. Sometimes that method doesn't always capture the true sound of the music. Obvious the more samples the better the recreation of the sound.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:32 pm to teke184
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Considering CD sales have pretty much been replaced by digital sales, I’m not sure this is a huge deal.
Exactly. While vinyl may have increased slightly over the last few years, back from virtually nothing, CD sales are approaching non-existent. I'm sure the graph of both sales would show a slight rise in vinyl and CDs falling off a cliff.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:34 pm to Tarps99
I think the idea of vinyl being related to hipsters pisses the baws off on here.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:34 pm to stout
I believe it.
Just in my logged collection.
Just in my logged collection.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:35 pm to northshorebamaman
I didn't want to get into bits and bytes and sound waves and compression.
It is just easier to let people hear the difference.
I guess some people in this thread have never heard the difference. :shrugs:
It is just easier to let people hear the difference.
I guess some people in this thread have never heard the difference. :shrugs:
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