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re: Vinyl records expected to outsell CDs in 2019 for the first time since 1980s
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:37 pm to stout
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:37 pm to stout
I doubt most younger people can hear the difference between vinyl and CD.
If they could they probably wouldn't listen to the shite music that is "popular" these days.
If they could they probably wouldn't listen to the shite music that is "popular" these days.
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:37 pm to lsuesac
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I’m surprised anyone actually buys cds really
I still buy all my music on CD then I rip a copy of FLAC and MP3.
CDs are getting really cheap and I have been filling in missing parts of my catalog.
I do stream on Amazon music quite a bit but nothing beats my own play list on high quality FLAC on my main system.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:39 pm to Helo
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I still buy all my music on CD then I rip a copy of FLAC and MP3.
CDs are getting really cheap and I have been filling in missing parts of my catalog.
Can hook my turn table up to a computer and make mp3s from records.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:39 pm to teke184
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Considering CD sales have pretty much been replaced by digital sales, I’m not sure this is a huge deal.
Right. And Vinyls have always been a collectible
I wouldn't mind owning a few of my favorite albums but I'm not going to go out of my way to get the audio setup for it
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:43 pm to Powerman
I went to Best Buy online to get some cds... all they had was vinyl. Wtf is up with this?
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:46 pm to ezride25
quote:I think they also removed the CD section in their stores recently.
I went to Best Buy online to get some cds... all they had was vinyl. Wtf is up with this?
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:49 pm to northshorebamaman
I remember in 1996 and 97..some CDs being like $30 sometimes in a sam goody
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:51 pm to stout
Most people are playing them on junk record players, its probably not for the sound aspect.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:54 pm to SEClint
There was a place by campus that sold CDs for like $18
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:54 pm to SEClint
quote:Yeah. They'd just call it an 'import' and double the price.
I remember in 1996 and 97..some CDs being like $30 sometimes in a sam goody
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:55 pm to N2cars
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You can't beat the portability of digital music, but it really does lack depth.
You use the term "digital music" as a blanket statement without defining what you specifically mean.
If you mean streaming, this *might* be true as streaming, in an attempt to reduce bandwidth and data transfer, can compress the audio to a point that some elements can be lost. But digital would also imply CDs (44.1kHz 16 bit) and recordings made at much higher bit depths and sample rates. Recordings made at 96kHz 24 bit (or higher) with modern equipment (meaning the latest, greatest filters and encoding) will have frequencies vinyl could never, ever reproduce.
And here's the thing... a lot of newer recordings pressed to vinyl were recorded and mixed digitally.
There are so many factors in the recording chain that can affect the end result. Were the instruments properly micced with great mics in a great room or DI'ed in someone's basement? Was it recorded through pro gear or whatever was on sale at Guitar Center for $500? Was it recorded to tape? If so, was the machine aligned properly? What was the tape speed (there are differences between 7.5 ips and 30 ips). If it was recorded to tape, is there any NR applied? If so, what flavor? Was it recorded into ProTools? Was it mixed by someone who knows what they are doing? Was it mastered properly? And then ultimately, is the phonograph of quality and maintained properly? Are the speakers any good?
As mentioned elsewhere, mastering for vinyl involves considerations that digital doesn't require. If mastered improperly, too much bass on a vinyl record can cause the needle to jump out of the groove.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:55 pm to BurningHeart
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I buy vinyl but not for sound quality. No matter how much the armchair audiophiles say otherwise, CDs and MP3s have higher sound quality than a record.
More or less this. While I own a Linn LP12 turntable and have a collection of vinyl both current and vintage the biggest draw really is the ritual of play. Desleeving an album cleaning it and placing it on the platter is part of the fun of vinyl. It also more or less forces you to play an album as intended, most older albums were carefully ordered to produce a journey.
Vinyl like tube amps are less accurate than their more modern cousins but it allows people to luad the difference. Vinyl, particularly in the low frequencies, is a rather poor medium for reproductions. Low frequencies require very large grooves and take up too much room on the disc, as a result, there is a lot of bass processing on a vinyl album. People often find the bass warmer on vinyl which is a result of increased mid-bass. Vinyl often doesn't have the original fundamental bass frequencies but a processed set of second and third harmonics designed to fill out the bottom end.
People argue that the higher frequencies particularly voices are smoother. Yes, this is true since vinyl is often highly de-essesd.
Vinyl deteriorates with each play something that is not an issue for digital music.
The biggest issue with digital media isn't the media but engineering. Read about the loudness wars.
Audiophiles are an odd group and they rub off on the average listener. I have been in homes of A/V geeks like myself and seen very expensive two-channel rigs with high-end analog front ends (turntables) with not a single acoustic treatment anywhere in the room. These gear sluts will pay 5 figures for a pre-amp with a volume control built by cherubs in a heavenly clean room but couldn't spend a few hundred or thousand dealing with their room acoustics but laud the superiority of vinyl.
If you like the sound of vinyl so be it but just like tube amps the sound is less accurate than it could be. So champion the sound as much as you like just don't try to argue it is more accurate.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:55 pm to northshorebamaman
I remember buying jimmy eat world Bleed American for 29 bucks at sunside records 
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:56 pm to Tempratt
quote:Maybe but all the vinyl collectors I've known were way into the hardware.
Most people are playing them on junk record players, its probably not for the sound aspect.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:56 pm to Tempratt
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Most people are playing them on junk record players, its probably not for the sound aspect.
I have a lot of 2nd wave black metal. My technics cost a few hundred. My speakers are 2 HPM 40. They were free.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:57 pm to OweO
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There was a place by campus that sold CDs for like $18
I used to go to this place on Florida near Airline across from Capital Schwinn for CDs in the early 90s. There used to be a mini golf place next door. CD warehouse maybe?
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:01 pm to fallguy_1978
What was the most expensive CD you guys have paid for?
I bought Mellon collie and the infinite sadness in 1995 when it came out and gave $35
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:05 pm to SEClint
quote:I can't even remember. Haven't spent more than a few bucks for one in twenty years.
What was the most expensive CD you guys have paid for?
If memory serves they sold for $12-14 or so in the mid 90's. Doubt I ever spent more than $20.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:07 pm to johnqpublic
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And here's the thing... a lot of newer recordings pressed to vinyl were recorded and mixed digitally.
I fricking hate that shite.
They did that with Antichrist Superstar, and the red vinyls of it sound like shite compared to the simply vinyl versions of the 90s.
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