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re: Vinyl records expected to outsell CDs in 2019 for the first time since 1980s

Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:49 pm to
More than twice as many CDs than vinyl records are sold, but revenues from vinyl are about to eclipse revenues from CDs. The people into vinyl pay top dollar per unit, while CDs are in the bargain bin.

The second paragraph of this Rolling Stone article clarifies:

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Sales of vinyl records have enjoyed constant growth in recent years. At the same time, CD sales are in a nosedive. Last year, the Recording Industry Association of America’s (RIAA) mid-year report suggested that CD sales were declining three times as fast as vinyl sales were growing. In February, the RIAA reported that vinyl sales accounted for more than a third of the revenue coming from physical releases.

This trend continues in RIAA’s 2019 mid-year report, which came out on Thursday. Vinyl records earned $224.1 million (on 8.6 million units) in the first half of 2019, closing in on the $247.9 million (on 18.6 million units) generated by CD sales. Vinyl revenue grew by 12.8% in the second half of 2018 and 12.9% in the first six months of 2019, while the revenue from CDs barely budged. If these trends hold, records will soon be generating more money than compact discs.
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After the Rolling Stone article came out, other sites started running headlines saying that vinyl albums were outselling CDs. Nope. They’re still 10 million units behind.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25548 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:54 pm to
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System 1 -Cambridge CD player, DAC, Krell monobocks connected to top of the line B&W 801's.

System 2 Rega turntable, Bryston Preamp, Bryston amps going to Magnaplanar speakers


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With the vinyl set-up I cold not only hear every instrument, but I could tell you almost exactly where they were positioned in the room. Most uncanny yet amazing musical experience I have ever had the pleasure to hear.


First, the biggest difference you heard was between a planer speaker (specifically a ribbon that works as a di-pole) and a point source transducer-based speaker the 801s are monopole. When placed properly a planar speaker can have a huge soundstage, excellent imaging and great dynamics. The other big issue was the actual recordings you were listening to.

Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11423 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:57 pm to
I’m gonna sit this one out...

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13313 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:16 pm to
My son is in his junior year at Fayetteville. A couple of months ago, he calls all fired up because he found an original Skynyrd Street Survivors with the flames. It sounds like he’s building quite the collection.

There is something about the sound of vinyl. No doubt the clarity, sound quality all that is better on a CD, but throw any of the Bon Scott AC/DC albums on and kick it up to about 8. If you don’t get it then, you never will.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16959 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:17 pm to
I have no clue why anyone would want to frick with vinyl.

I would much rather just make a playlist and Bluetooth it to a speaker.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13289 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:17 pm to
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As mentioned elsewhere, mastering for vinyl involves considerations that digital doesn't require. If mastered improperly, too much bass on a vinyl record can cause the needle to jump out of the groove.


Telarc.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13289 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:25 pm to
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Can hook my turn table up to a computer and make mp3s from records.


This little NAD USB PREAMP A/D might be good for you.

Make sure you keep linear PCM (wav) copies in addition to your mp3s
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:29 pm to
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I have no clue why anyone would want to frick with vinyl.
I'm only speaking about the differences in vinyl and streaming (because most of these also apply to CD's). Someone mentioned it earlier but vinyl is just a more visceral experience (than streaming). You have to dig for the album. You have to handle it with care. You might have to clean it. It's harder to secure your favorite albums in vinyl. And because they deteriorate you can't play them nonstop.

Streaming is amazing because I can find almost every song in a matter of seconds but vinyl holds appeal.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:36 pm to
If you still have them, get them signed. Glenn isnt doing too good.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Glenn isnt doing too good.
Damn, what's going on? I've noticed he's been a little too personable in interviews lately.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:46 pm to
People still bought CDs?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:46 pm to
I've heard about some health issues, the misfits reunion (which I'm glad happened) wasnt a coincidence.

Not 100% sure on all the details, but I'm hoping he pulls through. The misfits were a huge band to me growing up, first album I ever stole was a misfits cassette cause I couldnt afford it at 12 years old.


ETA

Even nowadays I still cover "bloodfeast" live.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:51 pm to
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The misfits were a huge band to me growing up,
Same. And I have the pretty terrible homemade 'Crimson Ghost' tattoo to prove it.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25548 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:59 pm to
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but throw any of the Bon Scott AC/DC albums on and kick it up to about 8. If you don’t get it then, you never will.


Vintage vinyl has a big draw for many, myself included, despite some of the shortcomings. One of my favorite LPs is the 1970 Decca 6 track live recording of The Who "Live at Leeds". The vinyl has an urgency and rawness not available on the '95 CD which is oft considered the best engineered. This is where you get into the minutia of recordings. There are dozens of versions of this one performance including a couple of Midas Touch bootlegs which are both different. This all points to one of my main positions that vinyl vs CD/digital is often more about the sound engineer and the specific recording than the media. There can be a huge difference in sound depening on whether the engineer did the final mix played through the ubiquitous Yamaha NS10Ms (the small speaker with the white woofer sitting on the top of the mixing table that you see in practically every studio especially if it is on TV or in a movie) or if the engineer used the studio's reference speakers.

Look at the label from the Live at Leeds album, don't correct the cracking noises!

Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:13 pm to
You should go search for some vinyl rips by PBTHAL and tell me what is to be gained by owning the vinyl instead of having someone, with audio equipment far beyond the pocket of what most (outside of the self acclaimed OT millionaires of course) ever will buy, provide you with in the way portable music of your favorite vinyl.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:17 pm to
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You should go search for some vinyl rips by PBTHAL and tell me what is to be gained by owning the vinyl instead of having someone, with audio equipment far beyond the pocket of what most (outside of the self acclaimed OT millionaires of course) ever will buy, provide you with in the way portable music of your favorite vinyl.

album art
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:23 pm to
Most album art is readily available in high quality scans online.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:25 pm to
This is an example of a technology out living generations of would be successors. 8 Tracks, cassettes, CD's: They challenged vinyl, had their decade or so of trendy use, then "Next!"

Except vinyl, it never went anywhere and probably won't for a long time.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:26 pm to
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Most album arts is readily available in high quality scans online.
So is most any other kinds of art. Some people enjoy owning physical copies.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:28 pm to
The two are not mutually exclusive. You can own the vinyl AND the digital rip of the vinyl in higher quality than most streaming services yet have it portable for your listening pleasure everywhere.
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