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re: VIDEO: Florida woman kills man. . .over WalMart parking space. NSFW Could be SYG or murder

Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:15 pm to
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is part of stand your ground brandishing a weapon and threatening someone with it?


SYG just means there's no duty to retreat.

You can't chase/follow someone, or leave to get your gun and come back for round 2, but you can show the weapon. It usually works in your favor because you warned them and they still came at you.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:18 pm to
Of course, but even at your own house on your own property its not cut and dry.

I just dont see stand your ground here. She advanced with the gun drawn.

Now if it were me, I would maybe do that if I thought the other person might be armed and possibly going to shoot and i couldnt drive away, just because I dont want to be stuck in a car if bullets start flying, but I doubt she was on that wavelength.

Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:18 pm to
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Well part of stand your ground is not leaving
She didn't leave hick
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:19 pm to
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So she got out with the gun from the onset? And was already safe in her car? That might change things I thought she was just walking around and this dude kept pressing her from the original post.
Not guilty hick
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:20 pm to
Thats what hes saying. You dont have to leave. You dont have a duty to retreat. Its your right to stand and fight, even if you do have a possible option of escape.
Posted by BigDropper
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:21 pm to
Florida Statute § 790.10 Improper Exhibition of Dangerous Weapons or Firearms

Simple verbal arguments, screaming matches, or non-threatening disputes over a parking space do not meet the legal threshold for self-defense.

Brandishing a gun in those scenarios will result in criminal charges
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:21 pm to
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Stand your ground sure seems silly. You might as well be the first to shoot every time.


Sure as hell beats being the second to shoot.

I don’t care what the situation is. If someone pulls a gun on you, then continuing to be a threat towards them is stupid.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:25 pm to
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but acting like it was a shooting in cold blood (malice murder) was erroneous.


I disagree. The only person convicted of malice murder for killing Arbery was chilling in his bed while Arbery was running past his house. He hadn’t seen Arbery that day prior to getting his gun and chasing him, ultimately cornering and killing him.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:29 pm to
And I won’t lose my mind over your opinion on it.

I just think the judge kept some very pertinent information out of the trial that may or may not have changed the outcome.

That is to say, while I don’t agree with the charges brought, the McDaniels put themselves in a situation that lead to the outcome, right or wrong.

I think Karmelo Anthony probably should have got a lighter charge, but he put himself in a situation that was entirely avoidable

Not always, but in most of these high profile cases, several decisions could have stopped you from killing somebody or being killed.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:36 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:31 pm to
I honestly don’t remember, did the McMichael’s have knowledge of his past transgressions prior to the murder?
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:35 pm to
I don’t think so.

I think they had just heard somebody had been robbing construction sites and were on high alert.
Posted by sharkfhin
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:49 pm to
Exactly. She continued the argument with her gun when she re emerged from her car. She wasn't scared , she came back to shoot him because she was mad, continued to bait him till she shot him.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:54 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:39 pm to
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I think Karmelo Anthony probably should have got a lighter charge…

This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 11:16 pm
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:46 pm to
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Part of the problem in this country is that certain people are so committed to being pieces of shite with nobody to contest them.


Old, trashy white dudes?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:08 pm to
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Agree, George Zimmerman was a POS.

I listened to a liberal black lawyer explain why George Zimmerman was innocent. Travon got the upper hand and starts banging George’s head into the concrete again and again. The fight is over at that point and so was George’s ability to defend himself. Travon continued doing it despite that. That’s when Travon got shot. Self defense and why he got off.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:25 pm to
shite people come in all flavors.
Posted by PGAOLDBAWNevahBroke
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:31 pm to
Room temp IQs at work.

Fascinating stuff
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:41 pm to
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SYG just means there's no duty to retreat.


When using deadly force it’s also requires a reasonable fear of a deadly threat or threat or great bodily harm.

Brandishing your weapon aggressively when threat isn’t reasonable can be seen as a deadly threat or intimidation towards that other person which could justify that person acting in self-defense. Instigating the situation requires a retreat.

In the below sequence the guy seemed to be done with it and walking away until she moved closer, kept pointing the gun at the guy, and ran her mouth about something (don’t have images of her moving closer and him turning back as just using what an article had). Any recordings or witness statements on this and also what was being said when she first got at of car with the guy off camera and not a danger at all unless he also had a gun are going to be what decides if charges are filed. If she provoked situation she had a duty to retreat or make it obvious she was ending her original deadly threat, and any deadly force would have only been justifiable if he then does something that reasonably gives fear of imminent danger of death or bodily harm before she can fully accomplish either of those requirements. What was being said by her during the entire sequence around the below 2 images and then anything by him especially when he turned around and returned seems the most important to whether fearing an imminent deadly threat was reasonable and also not provoked by the shooter.



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