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re: VIDEO: Florida woman kills man. . .over WalMart parking space. NSFW Could be SYG or murder
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:45 pm to Roaad
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:45 pm to Roaad
Rewatching the longer video it would not shock me to find out ol baw was drunk or high. Dude was kinda stumbling around at the 18 second mark and was all leaned back while walking around.
Could be why he kept pressing her despite having a gun trained on him.
Could be why he kept pressing her despite having a gun trained on him.
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I think that will always be a factor for the jury, and probably a justifiable one most of the time. I know its the modern era, equal rights and equal lefts and all that shite, but a woman has an easier case to make then a man would when the shooter is the only one armed.
Might not want to have a white student that went to a public HS that was 40% or more black in that jury. Black girls would start throwing and swinging chairs and tables at people. Coaches hated breaking up those fights more than any fight between guys. Black and white guys would end up respecting that the coach was going to run their asses or kick them off the various teams if they didn’t stop fighting. Black girls absolutely lost their shite and would go feral, and anyone trying to break it up or even getting too close without their heads on a swivel ended up as collateral damage.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:53 pm to Obtuse1
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Walking towards someone should not be self defense grounds, absent other factors like verbal threats or displays of dangerous weapons.
That is an interesting POV.
Very interesting, and also absent from any police thread where someone gets popped for advancing towards and officer while "unarmed." Odd.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:57 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I disagree with the . . . Arbery decisions
Arbery was not out for a run. I can’t confirm or deny that he was robbing construction sites, but the judge denied entering Arbery’s past (mental and criminal, which is extremely pertinent) from the trial and that makes the whole thing moot to me.
The McMichaels did not wake up with murder in their hearts that morning. I don’t think this lady did either.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:58 pm to dallastigers
I went to a public school in the south that was >50% black. Its not really relevant. Have you ever seen when one of those queens pushes a dude too far and he actually fights back? I have. It isnt pretty. Your coaches hated breaking them up becasue she could hit him and he couldnt hit her back. Human mechanics dictates that a woman is in far more danger vs an unarmed man than a man is vs an unarmed man, no matter how thugtastic she thinks she is.
Now in this particular case, she might be cooked. She had the option to leave and didnt. Getting out of the car with a gun drawn to confront an unarmed man is different than standing your ground. She could have just stayed in the car, locked the door, and he couldnt have done shite. She could have gotten back in the car. Lots of outs she didnt take. Obviously the confrontation had already initiated, because why else would she have exited the car gun in hand?
Now in this particular case, she might be cooked. She had the option to leave and didnt. Getting out of the car with a gun drawn to confront an unarmed man is different than standing your ground. She could have just stayed in the car, locked the door, and he couldnt have done shite. She could have gotten back in the car. Lots of outs she didnt take. Obviously the confrontation had already initiated, because why else would she have exited the car gun in hand?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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She had the option to leave and didnt.
Well part of stand your ground is not leaving
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:01 pm to 3nOut
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Arbery was not out for a run.
Not sure what difference that makes though.
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the judge Denice entering Arbery’s past (mental and criminal) from the trial and that makes the whole thing moot to me.
Not sure I follow.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Had some typos. Corrected.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:I think this will be a major part of the trial if it goes to that. It appears that prior to the video there was a dispute over the parking spot. She knew she had that gun on her and that emboldened her to get out with it and escalate the situation. She didn't appear to fear for her life. I'm sure if we could hear the audio we'd hear threatening to shoot the guy with it.
Now in this particular case, she might be cooked. She had the option to leave and didnt. Getting out of the car with a gun drawn to confront an unarmed man is different than standing your ground. She could have just stayed in the car, locked the door, and he couldnt have done shite. She could have gotten back in the car. Lots of outs she didnt take.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:05 pm to 3nOut
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The McMichaels did not wake up with murder in their hearts that morning.
This could likely be said about a ton of convicted murderers.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:05 pm to Cosmo
quote:is part of stand your ground brandishing a weapon and threatening someone with it?
Well part of stand your ground is not leaving
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:05 pm to Cosmo
Does that apply when you have a simple out and dont take it, and you are in a public place?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:06 pm to BigDropper
So she got out with the gun from the onset? And was already safe in her car? That might change things
I thought she was just walking around and this dude kept pressing her from the original post.
I thought she was just walking around and this dude kept pressing her from the original post.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:06 pm to Roaad
Not guilty
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Does that apply when you have a simple out and dont take it, and you are in a public place?
Yes.
That’s the whole point of SYG.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:09 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I dont see how exiting the car with a gun drawn qualifies as stand your ground. Had she stayed in the car and shot him for trying to enter it, yes obviously. In this case it doesnt look that straight forward to me.
Im pretty sure if someone is unarmed and in my yard shouting threats at me, I cant go outside and shoot them. And thats on my own property.
Im pretty sure if someone is unarmed and in my yard shouting threats at me, I cant go outside and shoot them. And thats on my own property.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:10 pm to tylercsbn9
quote:I think a lot of people in this thread did. She was trying to intimidate him with her gun.
I thought she was just walking around and this dude kept pressing her from the original post.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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This could likely be said about a ton of convicted murderers.
Agreed.
I just think that Arbery had a redacted record that would have made robbery more likely. Doesn’t give them a right to shoot him, but acting like it was a shooting in cold blood (malice murder) was erroneous.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:12 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Im pretty sure if someone is unarmed and in my yard shouting threats at me, I cant go outside and shoot them. And thats on my own property.
I mean it depends on a few things but there are absolutely circumstances out there (that have happened IRL) where you can do this.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:14 pm to BigDropper
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think a lot of people in this thread did. She was trying to intimidate him with her gun.
Yeah. I’d say she’s cooked.
She was safe in her car. Guy wasn’t up in her face in anything at her window. If he was then it’s stand your ground.
So she’s safe in her car and the guy is what just yelling at her from a decent distance? She then gets out with the gun?
That’s not stand your ground.
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