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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:38 pm to High C
This isn't a US problem. It's a developed world problem. If your fertility rate is not above 2, you're losing population.

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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:40 pm to Cosmo
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Kids take you away from doing whatever you want and people dont like that
Absolutely a huge part of it.
Astronomical rises in the costs of everything involved in raising multiple children is a factor too though. Housing, tuition, daycare, basic necessities like diapers/formula/groceries etc have enormously outpaced wages for a generation plus now.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:45 pm to jizzle6609
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I am to the point where I am ready to vote to sterilize people in this country, dead serious
Okay, Hitler.
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:47 pm to Harry Caray
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What's a high percentage? Grok says at most 0.4% of the american population is transsexual.
that's for the entire world. close to 40% of American millennials with XX chromosomes have had their penis removed.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 5:49 pm to High C
AI, Automation, Robotics, etc.
We aren’t going to need a massive influx of people as many blue and white collar workers are going to be out if work. This will be here sooner than you think.
We aren’t going to need a massive influx of people as many blue and white collar workers are going to be out if work. This will be here sooner than you think.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:14 pm to High C
This is a complex problem. The incentives have to be long term ones, and economics tell me if you gave everyone 2,000 a month for each kid, daycare rates would increase about $2,000 a month. So just handing out cash isn’t going to work, no matter how much money we are talking about.
You’re going to have to create social pressure and incentives it that way. How? I got no idea.
You’re going to have to create social pressure and incentives it that way. How? I got no idea.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:26 pm to High C
quote:The two biggest factors. It’s not the cost of food or doctor’s appointments that are hard. It’s paying $400 a week for fricking daycare that’s ridiculous. It used to not be a huge issue because so many moms stayed at home during the first 3-5 years before kids went to school. They can’t do that now because the cost of living has gone up so much that it’s not feasible to have a 1 income household the vast majority of the time.
cost of raising children, and abortion rates
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:28 pm to Cosmo
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AKA laziness and narcissism. Kids take you away from doing whatever you want and people dont like that
I think if you talked to the average 25 year old dude, hed love to have a wife with 4 kids. Talk to average 25 year old girl and if you can hold her attention long enough to get an answer, shed tell you about how shes gonna get married at 28 and have one or two kids...if they can afford a nanny
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:34 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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it’s not feasible to have a 1 income household the vast majority of the time.
I'm not so sure how much that really factors in. I know a nurse practitioner, mid thirties, who's about to have her first child. Her husband is an engineering consultant who has has own business. They've been married about ten years. They could have had one or more babies during that time but she was busy with work, schooling, etc. There are always women whose one goal in life is to be a full time wife and mother. I think they're in the minority.
ETA at first she was all Gung Ho about leaving the rat race. The last time I spoke with her she said "you may be seeing me again in a few months."
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Doing it now. I would probably fist fight my wife before I let her go back to work, but I am a fairly high earner for my age and while tough would not be the right word, it damn sure isn't overly comfortable. There's no way we could swing it if I were closer to the median income for my area.
We’d have 1-2 more kids if I could support my wife staying home. It was too much on all of us to both work and be good parents. I couldn’t do it again and neither could she.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:35 pm to TT9
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what a retard.
His parents’ fault for waiting too long to breed.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:38 pm to High C
No worries, the MS Delta and Jxn to the rescue.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:43 pm to OweO
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Is fertility rates being at an all-time low a bad thing?
No. The world has WAY too many people. If the population was cut in half worldwide it would still be way too many people
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:47 pm to High C
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Feminism, cost of raising children, and abortion rates are the biggest reasons, imo
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”Women became the men they wanted to marry”- Gloria Steinem
Posted on 4/22/25 at 6:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
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No. The world has WAY too many people. If the population was cut in half worldwide it would still be way too many people
As of this year there are 8.23 billion people on the earth. And the more it grows, the fast it grows. Overpopulation isn't a good thing.. I know there is a lot of room on earth for more people, but that doesn't mean you have to fill it up to its capacity. It would absolutely be in the best interest of the Earth if there were less people.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 7:35 pm to High C
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Feminism, cost of raising children, and abortion rates are the biggest reasons, imo.
Let's not discount absolutely shite diets destroying testosterone levels. High amounts of estrogens are screwing up boys and girls
Also the emasculation of boys by society
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:49 pm to OweO
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Is fertility rates being at an all-time low a bad thing? The population will still grow for now, but I don't think a smaller population would be a bad thing. More people, more problems.
Yes. Our economy is predicated on growth. The only real way to grow is to at least maintain population numbers.
Deflation is something we haven’t seen, but from a financial perspective, deflation means a depression.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:52 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Tax rates that force women in to the job force means many more of them choose careers over family.
It’s not tax rates, but rather societal encouragement for women to work and choose career and material possessions over family and traditional happiness
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:54 pm to 904
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The poor used to have more kids so that they had manpower to tend the fields.
Now they have more kids to increase their welfare checks
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