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U.S. aluminum/steel shutting down

Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:42 am
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6583 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:42 am

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At least two steel mills have begun suspending some operations to cut energy costs, according to one industry executive, who asked not to be identified because the information isn’t public. In May, a group of factories across the US Midwest warned federal energy regulators that some were on the verge of closing for the summer or longer because of what they described as “unjust and unreasonable” electricity costs. They asked to be wholly absolved of some power fees—a request that, if granted, would be unprecedented. [Emphasis added]


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On June 22, 600 workers at the second-largest aluminum mill in America, accounting for 20% of US supply, learned they were losing their jobs because the plant can’t afford an electricity tab that’s tripled in a matter of months. Century Aluminum Co. says it’ll idle the Hawesville, Kentucky, mill for as long as a year, taking out the biggest of its three US sites. A shutdown like this can take a month as workers carefully swirl the molten metal into storage so it doesn’t solidify in pipes and vessels and turn the entire facility into a useless brick. Restarting takes another six to nine months. For this reason, owners don’t halt operations unless they’ve exhausted all other options.


This in turn will drive up cost for items that have to have these basic metals.
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Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98881 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:47 am to
All part of the plan...
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7850 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:48 am to
It's cool, just print infinite money and pay infinite subsidies.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3375 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:48 am to
Who is John Galt?
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:49 am to
If we would stop exporting natural gas it could help with our energy costs.

Just saying.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27106 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:49 am to
quote:

This in turn will drive up cost for items that have to have these basic metals.


Interesting. I just got notice two days ago from my aluminum supplier that prices are going down 20%.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 7:50 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7030 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:49 am to
If you're running an operation so lean that you can't pay your electricity bill your operation was probably on its way out anyway.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15107 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:51 am to
Something tells me solar panels and windmills are useless here.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123635 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:51 am to
Build back better
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:52 am to
quote:

If you're running an operation so lean that you can't pay your electricity bill your operation was probably on its way out anyway.


Yeah, frick it. We need to just outsource it to China like everything else. It's not like we had a massive pandemic that showed how fragile our global supply chain is, especially for strategic materials.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:53 am to
Stop The Steel
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Something tells me solar panels and windmills are useless here.


It's funny how, no matter which direction we turn, the solution is to bring all our energy solutions in from abroad.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66858 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:57 am to
“The Adults are back in charge”
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36567 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:57 am to
quote:


Yeah, frick it. We need to just outsource it to China like everything else. It's not like we had a massive pandemic that showed how fragile our global supply chain is, especially for strategic materials.


Yep. The pandemic tried to teach us just how fragile our way of life is.

The more we depend on China, the fewer bullets they'll have to fire to take our country.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3264 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:59 am to
At least we got those documents back from trump though
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:59 am to
quote:

If you're running an operation so lean that you can't pay your electricity bill your operation was probably on its way out anyway.


Eh, if one of your most consumed inputs triples you weren't really running that lean.

Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:00 am to
They're crashing this plane with no survivors
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6446 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Who is John Galt?


Came here to post this.. It's actually happening.
Posted by atrain5
Baton Rouge Correctional Facility
Member since Sep 2017
2209 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:02 am to
Steel is starting to go upside down now. From the beginning of Covid, for standard steel plate- average cost went from .32 cents a pound to upwards of .95 cents a pound. It is starting to cool off finally with HRC free falling and piping and tubing taking a dive as well. The mills though are still giving end users the run around. The "staffing shortages" and "outages" are still putting users in a lead time hell. Even the most common of sizes that you used to be able to get it a week have roll times pushed out for months.
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1273 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:03 am to
Im on a big project in the early stages of procurement and this not new information.
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