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re: Update: MJ Allegedly found w/ Dallas PwC Associate killed by DPD officer

Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:01 am to
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:01 am to
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Now y’all are just talking out your arse. You don’t know what has or hasn’t been done. You realize that they have strict protocols for officer involved shootings and those usually include a breath and / or blood test. You don’t have to be under arrest for that. People shoot and kill people all the time and don’t get arrested immediately. Granted those are generally clear cut self defense situations but don’t act like letting the DA review the case prior to Grand Jury and an arrest is unprecedented. I think this situation is 100% fricked up but the OT acting like this has never happened before to anyone is disingenuous at best.


After he emotional outbursts (and the standard cop haters) die down, this is the most accurate explanation. You got it right here.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83917 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:01 am to
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Was the apartment decorated identically to hers? It’s either that or she was high AF.

Even if you could somehow walk up to the wrong apartment and get into it without noticing it wasn’t yours, no way a sober, sane person walks in, sees someone else’s couches, tvs, pictures/art and still thinks they’re home.

maybe it was the same floorplan (1br, etc). maybe she was so tired from her shift that she maybe accidentally pressed the wrong floor on the apt elevator and got off on 3 instead of 2. the makeup of the hallways are likely the same on each floor.

then maybe the guy just forgot to lock his door, dunno.

just trying to see how this could happen if it actually happened like they are saying.
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1673 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:01 am to
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Kind of like hypothesizing about “what would” happen if it was an average person? You speak in absolute about that but call bull shite about what may happen to her tomorrow. I think she’s wrong on the surface, just pointing out the hypocrisy


I can say 100% if this happened to me I would ALREADY seen inside of jail cell (rightfully so).

I’m not calling BS on what might happen to her tomorrow or in future, , I’m not even debating that in this thread. Not sure how much clearer I can say I’m only talking about what has already happened and not the future (yet).

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:02 am to
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You don’t have to be under arrest for that.


How in the frick is there no arrest here?!?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:03 am to
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There is no way she isn't charged with something.


If DA's were forced to show all evidence they had at every grand jury and the process/transcripts werent secret, I would have more faith.

As it stands now that provides a lot of cover for DA's to half heartedly go through the grand jury process and then turn around and blame the grand jury for not indicting.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:06 am to
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Kind of like hypothesizing about “what would” happen if it was an average person?



An average person would have been arrested, and rightfully so.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23087 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:07 am to
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I'll make a prediction... it will come out in the near future that the officer and this guy had some sorta past relationship and she was pissed off because of that so she made up this story to make it look like a "accident"




Eh, that was one of my thoughts as well, but that's a pretty shitty plan.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20395 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:07 am to
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At a news conference early Friday, Dallas police Sgt. Warren Mitchell said they had yet to interview the officer



Here is how that works FYI. They take an initial bare bones statement at the scene from the officer. “I arrived on scene and that dead guy over there pointed that gun, the one in his hand, at me and I fired in self defense after fearing for my life.” That base statement allows them to collect evidence in context. The officer is then allowed 24-72 hours to process the event and they then sit down with counsel for a formal interview with investigators.

Before everyone starts howling, a regular citizen can do this exact same thing. It is called “I want a lawyer and choose to remain silent right now.” They just put it in the regulations for police so they don’t have to state it. Do the police try to get a citizen to make an immediate statement without counsel? You bet they do. But they can’t force one.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:07 am to
there are some crazy scenarios that could have led to this....im very curious how it shakes out
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
5147 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:07 am to
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What do you wanna bet they forgot to test for alcohol in her system?


According to the article, she had just got off work. You think she was drinking on the job?
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:08 am to
How in hell did this police officer not know her own apartment??? Better yet, what was she on when she entered the wrong apartment?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135032 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:09 am to
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I often go home to the wrong house and make love to women I think are my wife. It's really just a simple misunderstanding, could happen to anyone.



I’m gonna start using this one.

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:10 am to
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According to the article, she had just got off work. You think she was drinking on the job?



I'm having trouble understanding how a sober person whose job is to respond to emergency calls can't figure out where their own apartment is.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76778 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:10 am to
i want pics of the chick
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21403 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:11 am to
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. They take an initial bare bones statement at the scene from the officer. “I arrived on scene and that dead guy over there pointed that gun, the one in his hand, at me and I fired in self defense after fearing for my life.” That base statement allows them to collect evidence in context. The officer is then allowed 24-72 hours to process the event and they then sit down with counsel for a formal interview with investigators.

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Here is how that works FYI.

You have to be somewhere you have a legal right to be to claim self defense, that's how that works. Being an uninvited intruder does not meet that predicate.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:11 am to
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She should go to prison, but nothing will happen to her. Lets just be real about this.


She’ll get the hammer. The mayor and police chief hate the police.

She deserves life for being such an idiot. How do you not know your own place?
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:12 am to
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Before everyone starts howling, a regular citizen can do this exact same thing. It is called “I want a lawyer and choose to remain silent right now.” They just put it in the regulations for police so they don’t have to state it. Do the police try to get a citizen to make an immediate statement without counsel? You bet they do. But they can’t force one.


In any normal scenario the person is arrested on the spot and an arraignment happens shortly afterward.

You really think probable cause doesnt exist here for an arrest?
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4350 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:17 am to
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The really fricked up thing about this is that if he had tried to defend himself he would still be either dead or looking at capital murder


This may have been exactly what happened. Even if not, the police will probably try to spin it this way so the shooting appears "justified."
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61709 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:20 am to
I give it 8 hours before it is revealed they had a past relationship. There is no way this just randomly happens.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21403 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:22 am to
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There is no way this just randomly happens.

Yeah, because we only hire the best and brightest for these armed jobs
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