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re: Update: MJ Allegedly found w/ Dallas PwC Associate killed by DPD officer
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:37 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:37 am to NYNolaguy1
Hmmm so this is a B&E + Murder.
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:42 am to Alt26
Apparently she was at the door for some time. Her key was found in the lock. She was making commotion that witnesses overheard. “Open up, open up.”
The door was opened by Botham who was then shot by this idiot.
frick her. Stupid bitch.
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Police did not indicate that anyone else had witnessed the shooting, but two women who live on the second floor near where the shooting happened said they heard a lot of noise late Thursday.
“It was, like, police talk: 'Open up! Open up!'" 20-year-old Caitlin Simpson said.
The door was opened by Botham who was then shot by this idiot.
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According to the relative, the police officer’s key was found in the lock of the door of the apartment belonging to the deceased, after she tried unsuccessfully to open i
frick her. Stupid bitch.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:45 am to TH03
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Apparently she was at the door for some time. Her key was found in the lock. She was making commotion that witnesses overheard. “Open up, open up.”
If that's true, there is no way she wasn't drunk/high
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:47 am to TH03
quote:
Apparently she was at the door for some time. Her key was found in the lock. She was making commotion that witnesses overheard. “Open up, open up.”
This also begs the question: does she live alone? If so, who was she talking to?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:48 am to TH03
Wow. I'm hoping she was wasted or knew this guy at this point. I'd be terrified if people that stupid were walking around armed and ready to "protect and serve" my community.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:50 am to GRTiger
That’s what happens when you have a shite police chief who won’t raise pay and blames millennials for not wanting to become cops. And the pension fiasco decades in the making.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:51 am to TigerNlc
quote:Some time? She Unlawfully entered into a dwelling and murdered someone. This is Texas, she should get the needle.
This makes no fricking sense. Bitch better do some time.
I bet the libotards on the poliboard have come into the thread expecting people to take up for this shite cop.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:52 am to CarRamrod
Agreed. Botham would’ve gotten the needle if the situation were reverse.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:56 am to TH03
The needle, lol, no one would for this.
I agree there’s no way anyone should get shot here, but going into the wrong apt happens all the time. On the phone, not paying attention.
This could have been one of those places with furnished Apts so everything looked similar.
Given that, unless the guy assaulted her, there’s no way a cop should shoot.
I agree there’s no way anyone should get shot here, but going into the wrong apt happens all the time. On the phone, not paying attention.
This could have been one of those places with furnished Apts so everything looked similar.
Given that, unless the guy assaulted her, there’s no way a cop should shoot.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:59 am to baldona
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The needle, lol, no one would for this.
If it’s considered a burglary, yes they would. It would be tricky though.
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This could have been one of those places with furnished Apts so everything looked similar.
It’s not. And lol at you trying to excuse it as walking into the wrong apt happens all the time.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:07 am to Montezuma
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That wall of text still ends up in manslaughter.
Not necessarily.
Manslaughter in Texas (and most states) requires a degree of "recklessness". "A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur." Tex.Pen.C. 6.03(c)
Assuming she genuinely thought she was entertaining her own apartment and that the person therein was an intruder, then the argument COULD be made that she was not acting "recklessly" under the statute in that there was no "risk" that she consciously disregarded. Now that could change if she entered, saw the guy, and he wasn't doing anything threatening which would justify her shooting
Assuming for purposes of argument that ALL facts are in her favor and her entering the apartment truly was accidental, then I think the more likely charge may be negligent homicide. However, like every criminal case, the proper charges are wholly fact specific.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:16 am to Alt26
And you think that either walking into an apartment that is not furnished with her items and still shooting someone, OR (as some recent posts state), her keys weren't working and she pounded until someone opened the door and then shot is not disregarding a substantial risk (like someone's life) consciously?
You seem to enjoy citing law, so I am sure you will gray area the shite out of this, but as a fly-on-the-wall, do you think she was in the same realm of negligent homicide as waving a gun around to be cool and it discharging and hitting someone, or more aligned with creating a situation unintentionally, but moving forward with violence which is closer to manslaughter, but certainly not murder?
You seem to enjoy citing law, so I am sure you will gray area the shite out of this, but as a fly-on-the-wall, do you think she was in the same realm of negligent homicide as waving a gun around to be cool and it discharging and hitting someone, or more aligned with creating a situation unintentionally, but moving forward with violence which is closer to manslaughter, but certainly not murder?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:17 am to Alt26
If the door was locked and she failed to enter using her key, we'd have to give a lot of benefit to her mental deficiencies to assume she genuinely thought it was her apartment.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:33 am to TH03
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That’s what happens when you have a shite police chief who won’t raise pay and blames millennials for not wanting to become cops. And the pension fiasco decades in the making.
The hell are you taking about? The Dallas City Council just voted for pay raises like 2 days ago. It's not even up to the police chief. The Dallas City Manager usually is the one that controls their raises anyway (which is why Mayor Rawlings voted against the City Councils proposal). They have also gotten a raise nearly every year the last several years. They are still behind the pay scales in the suburbs that surround Dallas but they are not being denied raises.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:40 am to NYNolaguy1
She will go to jail
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:49 am to Ponchy Tiger
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I am 100% supporter of Police, but this shite here is flat out wrong. If a regular citizen did this they would be locked up for murder.
Agreed.
And how TF can you walk into the wrong appmt and not know it? Are they all required to have identical furnishings?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:54 am to GetCocky11
She'll do time.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:26 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:Yea, I'm confused about this one.
Kind of agree with you in this case. I always thought the administrative leave was standard procedure for officer involved shooting in the line of duty. This wasn't in the line of duty.
What does her occupation have to do with anything at that point?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:37 pm to LNCHBOX
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Are you going to bump this thread when this woman goes to jail like any other person would?
Any other person would already be in jail. That's the point. They wouldn't have their name withheld from the media for this long either.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:38 pm to slackster
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Any other person would already be in jail. That's the point. They wouldn't have their name withheld from the media for this long either.
That's really not entirely true though. But my question is still valid for OP.
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