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Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:12 pm to tiger91
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Surely the survivors will know how the decision to leave came about right?
I'm beginning to think that someone made the decision to leave the dock to head towards the intended location/platform with the idea the liftboat could just tap the legs down if weather conditions got too bad in transit.
I mentioned before that liftboats do this all time if weather conditions (waves) become too rough in transit. The captains have maps of the pipelines available to them so they know where they can & cannot drop the legs of the jackup.
The point of leaving the dock at that time would have been to make some leeway in terms of the traveling. Get a jump on the ride out, tap the legs down if necessary then continue the trip once weather permitted.
Obviously no one knew the weather would be as bad as it turned out to be which is reason behind what happened here but I've been involved in this exact same scenario before personally.
Of course the severe weather turned this into a tragic event but the other issue with this scenario is the pipelines. There was a situation before where a liftboat's pads where set on a pipeline & it caused an explosion. The time I was on a liftboat that jacked up in transit, the captain informed us that he had set one of the pads down just feet from a pipeline. He said it was either that or risk the boat sinking because the waves had began to come way over the bow onto the deck.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:14 pm to saintsfan1977
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women
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DP operators
Giggity
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:20 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Events like this tend to create new safety regulations.
I could see the banning of liftboats tapping their legs down to get out of rough seas in transit or for only extreme emergency situations. In that case, liftboats would only be able travel in a large enough weather windows from the dock to location or vice versa.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:21 pm to BigBrod81
So this "floating platform" leaves with the legs UP and then stabilizes itself by putting the legs down when it gets to its destination, right?? (I gathered that from the simple news report that I just watched)
And the fact that this one has a leg down BUT sticking out of the water indicates they were trying to stablize? Is that sort of right?
How long under normal circumstances does it take to lower those legs?? I did read here that maybe iirc they could be 9/10 feet around??
How in THE HELL does this thing "float" with those legs up in the air (again, per the news report I watched describing briefly how these things work).
No way would this chicken little female EVER get on that thing. Again
for those who do.
And the fact that this one has a leg down BUT sticking out of the water indicates they were trying to stablize? Is that sort of right?
How long under normal circumstances does it take to lower those legs?? I did read here that maybe iirc they could be 9/10 feet around??
How in THE HELL does this thing "float" with those legs up in the air (again, per the news report I watched describing briefly how these things work).
No way would this chicken little female EVER get on that thing. Again
for those who do.This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:24 pm to wadewilson
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Women
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DP Operator
Probably didn’t even have to work her way up either. They hire women as “DP observers” or some other made up nonsense just so they don’t have to work up from the deck. Same thing with tankers. Being a woman is easy money in the maritime industry these days
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:24 pm to tiger91
Naw, it flipped. That leg you see is still all the way"up".
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:29 pm to Meauxjeaux
Correct. The "foot" of the leg is still at the base of the boat.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:30 pm to Meauxjeaux
Oh shite .. I thought it fell the other way. Again, IDK shite about any of this but I'm literally in awe. Seriously.
Edit OK NOW I see the "pad".
HOW the hell heavy IS that thing and how the HELL does it hold cranes, etc AND float? I'm NOT a science/engineering mind at all ... and how long does it take to get the legs down? Obviously it would depend on the depth but .. any general idea? Hours??
Edit OK NOW I see the "pad".
HOW the hell heavy IS that thing and how the HELL does it hold cranes, etc AND float? I'm NOT a science/engineering mind at all ... and how long does it take to get the legs down? Obviously it would depend on the depth but .. any general idea? Hours??
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:32 pm to tiger91
Youtube - Liftboat Explanation
Bonus - Shows there's lot of women in the industry! Even offshore!
Bonus - Shows there's lot of women in the industry! Even offshore!
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:33 pm to tigerfanatic61
And where do you go to learn to "drive", maneuver these things???
Asked before I saw the video.
I'm seriously in awe.
Asked before I saw the video.
I'm seriously in awe.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:35 pm to tiger91
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And where do you go to learn to "drive", maneuver these things???
LDBDA, haven't you seen the ads?
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:37 pm to BigBrod81
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I could see the banning of liftboats tapping their legs down to get out of rough seas in transit or for only extreme emergency situations. In that case, liftboats would only be able travel in a large enough weather windows from the dock to location or vice versa.
So if they get caught in weather they’re just shite outta luck?
Who defines a weather window, and how?
Some of these boats only travel in depths shallow enough to Jack up for this very reason. For longer distances over deeper water, they dry tow.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:38 pm to saintsfan1977
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Some are hot and some you don't even care to look at.
I used bang a chick in her room who was prep cook on a drill ship.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:40 pm to G2160
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So if they get caught in weather they’re just shite outta luck?
I could see the banning of liftboats tapping their legs down to get out of rough seas in transit or for only extreme emergency situations.
Try reading more carefully next time.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:44 pm to BigBrod81
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There was a situation before where a liftboat's pads where set on a pipeline & it caused an explosion. The time I was on a liftboat that jacked up in transit, the captain informed us that he had set one of the pads down just feet from a pipeline. He said it was either that or risk the boat sinking
I went do a site clearance one day on one near a platform. The divers buoyed off 3 pipelines leaving the platform and jetted them out before we got there. So we pull about 100ft from the platform. I drop the sonar and scan the bottom and I can easily see the pipelines. We move in to 60ft away and I did it again.
This time we have a pipeline going right over the corner of the port pad. So I took the image stuck it in autocad and laid out the drawing of the lift boat and found out it was impossible for this boat to straddle the pipelines without crushing one. These are live pipelines too.
So I tell the captain pick up the starboard and stern leg and ease this thing back and we going park this boat in the clear.
The company man is on the platform looking at us all stupid and calls on the radio asking why we leaving. I grabbed the radio and told him we can't put this boat next to the platform without stepping on a pipeline. He starts screaming that he can see the buoys are 50ft from the legs. I told him the divers put too much slack in the buoys and that a pipeline was right on the pad. He starts yelling saying I'm full of shite that he needs that boat on the platform. I told him he can come on board and look but I'm not staying on this boat if it moves back in. He told me to pack my shite. I called the office and told them there's no way this boat will fit and they said frick the company man. I told the company man we out of here.
He tells the captain to put the boat in position and the captain told him I'm not moving this thing. He tells us both to get the frick out and he'll get another boat out there.
I got stories for days about the stupid shite that goes on. Especially when I did hydrualic workover and snubbing.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:46 pm to saintsfan1977
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I went do a site clearance one day on one near a platform. The divers buoyed off 3 pipelines leaving the platform and jetted them out before we got there. So we pull about 100ft from the platform. I drop the sonar and scan the bottom and I can easily see the pipelines. We move in to 60ft away and I did it again.
This time we have a pipeline going right over the corner of the port pad. So I took the image stuck it in autocad and laid out the drawing of the lift boat and found out it was impossible for this boat to straddle the pipelines without crushing one. These are live pipelines too.
So I tell the captain pick up the starboard and stern leg and ease this thing back and we going park this boat in the clear.
The company man is on the platform looking at us all stupid and calls on the radio asking why we leaving. I grabbed the radio and told him we can't put this boat next to the platform without stepping on a pipeline. He starts screaming that he can see the buoys are 50ft from the legs. I told him the divers put too much slack in the buoys and that a pipeline was right on the pad. He starts yelling saying I'm full of shite that he needs that boat on the platform. I told him he can come on board and look but I'm not staying on this boat if it moves back in. He told me to pack my shite. I called the office and told them there's no way this boat will fit and they said frick the company man. I told the company man we out of here.
He tells the captain to put the boat in position and the captain told him I'm not moving this thing. He tells us both to get the frick out and he'll get another boat out there.
I got stories for days about the stupid shite that goes on. Especially when I dud hydrualic workover and snubbing.
I'd drink a beer with you & trade stories anytime.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:50 pm to BigBrod81
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I'd drink a beer with you & trade stories anytime.
Be more than 1 beer padnuh.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 1:52 pm to saintsfan1977
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Be more than 1 beer padnuh.
I already knew it would more like a case.
Oh & frick that company man.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 1:53 pm
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