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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:23 am to Rouge
i know many private companies that also have this policy.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:23 am to Rouge
quote:Good.
U-Haul publicly announces hiring discrimination against nicotine users
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:24 am to CAD703X
quote:need more
i know many private companies that also have this policy.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:30 am to Rouge
I don't blame them. Drives up health insurance costs for the company and smokers always need to go outside for smoke breaks.
Years ago when working retail sales, I worked with a few smokers and it was a pain in the arse. Kept having to stop in the middle of what I was doing to go find them outside when their clients would call or come into the store looking for them because they'd be out behind the building on smoke breaks all the time instead of inside at their desk.
Years ago when working retail sales, I worked with a few smokers and it was a pain in the arse. Kept having to stop in the middle of what I was doing to go find them outside when their clients would call or come into the store looking for them because they'd be out behind the building on smoke breaks all the time instead of inside at their desk.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:32 am to AllDayEveryDay
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There's literally nothing in that reg that prevents a business from making a hiring decision for a new employee based on whether they smoke or not. But thanks for the copy and paste I guess.
I'm sure you know best (I'm just a labor and employment attorney).
ETA: The fact that U-Haul did not enact the policy in a number of states should have been a clue that a number of states have discrimination laws protecting smokers.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:37 am to Rouge
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This just seems primed for a nice lawsuit. I don't see how a company can ban the use of a federally legal product.
Why not? When federal law mandates you provide healthcare for all employees, then companies should be able to discriminate in order to lower their healthcare costs.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:44 am to chinhoyang
You must be a pretty shitty attorney if you can't decipher that reg and determine they're in the clear.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:52 am to LSUBoo
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Smokers aren't a protected class.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:59 am to Undertow
Normal smokers don't do this. But congrats on not being the a-hole most of em are.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:00 am to Rouge
Can't blame them.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:01 am to ZappBrannigan
Most smokers also don't take ten 15 minute breaks a day either.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:01 am to AllDayEveryDay
quote:
You must be a pretty shitty attorney if you can't decipher that reg and determine they're in the clear.
It figures that someone who went to a shite school like A and M doesn't know what "privilege of employment" means (or that U-Haul obviously agrees with my interpretation as they did not include Louisiana).
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:04 am to Rouge
I would think that since a company can ban a employee from
Smoking weed where it is legal then they could make the case here.
Smoking weed where it is legal then they could make the case here.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:08 am to thermal9221
So do a million other things. And I don't smoke or like being around it. What's next on your nanny state list?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:12 am to chinhoyang
It's surprising, and a shame, that 29 states (well, give or take, I assume they all have u-haul stores, but maybe not...) have laws protecting smokers.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:40 pm to Rouge
Hahaha...
Die, you dirty smoker!!!
Die, you dirty smoker!!!
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:49 pm to Rouge
You could always start your own moving truck business and hire all the poor, discriminated smokers.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:55 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:This is the exact opposite of nanny state.
So do a million other things. And I don't smoke or like being around it. What's next on your nanny state list?
Protecting smokers from private businesses is the nanny state.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:06 pm to Rouge
nope, they can do that under the same exact provisions they use to not hire and fire any one failing a drug test that doesnt prove they used on the job, only that they partake in an activity the company doesnt approve of
i dare anyone to make a valid legal distinction beyond weed isnt legal because it isnt illegal in some states but you still can get fired over it
i dare anyone to make a valid legal distinction beyond weed isnt legal because it isnt illegal in some states but you still can get fired over it
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