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re: U-Haul publicly announces hiring discrimination against nicotine users

Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:44 am to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:44 am to
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Their company, their rules.

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33504 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:44 am to
Smokers are less productive, they’re trashy, they’re more likely to have health issues, they smell bad, and they ruin the vehicles they drive. I approve of this. frick smokers. U Haul is probably pissed all their vehicles are ruined by smokers
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138530 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:44 am to
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foj1981


there is a substantial difference between a policy that states that one cannot smoke on the job and a policy that states that one cannot smoke at all....... None. The policy even goes as far as to state that if a person is trying to quit smoking and is using nicotine patches, they are not eligible for employment
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:45 am to
They have no grounds for a lawsuit. Sucks to be a smoker
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32718 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:46 am to
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I don't see how a company can ban the use of a federally legal product. That seems like textbook discrimination.


Because it's a private company and smokers aren't a protected class.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:46 am to
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there is a substantial difference between a policy that states that one cannot smoke on the job and a policy that states that one cannot smoke at all....... None. The policy even goes as far as to state that if a person is trying to quit smoking and is using nicotine patches, they are not eligible for employment


How are they going to know this though if the information isn't volunteered by the prospective employee?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:47 am to
Boo, the article states that employees are going to be subject to random nicotine screenings.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:47 am to
Well, that sucks for those employees.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:48 am to
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Sucks to be a smoker


It sucks to be around a smoker.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138530 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:48 am to
Hope your job doesn't ever ban the drinking of brown liquor
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77256 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:52 am to
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Hope your job doesn't ever ban the drinking of brown liquor
Almost every job bans the use of alcohol or being intoxicated while at work.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:52 am to
Good

Smoking is trashy
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37270 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:55 am to
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Boo, the article states that employees are going to be subject to random nicotine screenings.


And? Your employer could ban employees eating chicken if he wanted to.

Zero lawsuit. Employment agreements are voluntary. Don’t like it? Don’t work there. Period.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:56 am to
The year is 2020 and people are still clinging to their cancer sticks.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:57 am to
So if I understand this correctly, someone could smoke at home but if they could somehow not smoke or otherwise use nicotine at work they would be fine here?

Or does this policy state no home use too?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138530 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:57 am to
don't be obtuse, scruffy. The entire point of this article is that an employer is banning the use of a legal substance even while the employee is not at work.

You also know that medical professionals are pretty high up there on the unhealthy scale.
Posted by HotKoolaid
Member since Oct 2017
444 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:58 am to
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The year is 2020 and people are still clinging to their cancer sticks.


You're being intentionally short sighted if you think cigarettes are the only source for nicotine.

Depending on their testing threshold It could be possible to have a cigar on Friday night and lose your job on Monday morning.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37270 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:59 am to
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The entire point of this article is that an employer is banning the use of a legal substance even while the employee is not at work.


Which is not an issue legally speaking, as many in this thread have said.

Discrimination by private citizens/enterprises is only illegal if the basis is one identified by SCOTUS (ie race, gender, nationality, and religion).

Why does OP hate the freedom of consenting adults to enter into a contract?
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:59 am to
I used to get randomly drug and breathalyzer tests all the time. Glad I never showed up tipsy.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14398 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:59 am to
Good. Other companies should follow suit.

Smoking is trashy, expensive, and extremely unhealthy.
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