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re: Turkey begins invasion of Kurdish held northeast Syria

Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:15 pm to
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They helped us defeat ISIS, which we couldn't do without them and we promised to offer them protection.


They were nearly wiped out before US and Russia got involved. Wanna know which ground troops killed more ISIS than anyone? Syrian army and Iraqi army.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:16 pm to
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I am shocked at how many leftist now support military intervention.

well we were already there,, so its COnservatives opposing military withdrawal which is consistent with the Republican platform since WW2
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:17 pm to
So are you defending the knowledge of Trump's military advisors, or are they failures who Trump should ignore? Because he went completely against their advise and you guys can't seem to make up your mind on what stance to take...
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:17 pm to
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Not only do some people do the above, others will always assume the most negative stance possible on any topic politic-related.

Not necessarily saying Trump has been 100% correct in his actions here, just that some people will hate it no matter what.


“Some” people might be that way. But I am not. I evaluate the actions of our leaders using my best effort not to be biased.

I voted GWB but did not support the Iraqi war, I voted against Obama but did give him credit for the decision to attack UBL. I voted Trump but see way too many instances where he backs down to Russia. Love his stance on China
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:18 pm to
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am shocked at how many leftist now support military intervention.


It’s like half the people in this very thread googled Kurds the other day and are now pretending to be shocked. This shite has been going on for so many years. Turkey was attacking Kurds in northern Syria not long ago and nobody said a word
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:20 pm to
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So are you defending the knowledge of Trump's military advisors, or are they failures who Trump should ignore? Because he went completely against their advise and you guys can't seem to make up your mind on what stance to take..


Well those military advisors are the ones who’ve already cost us 1,000s of American lives for absolutely no reason in Iraq and quite a few lives in Syria.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Turkey was attacking Kurds in northern Syria not long ago and nobody said a word


Agreed on this point. I have followed the Kurds since the Kobane campaign and Turkey has always been angling to find a way to support ISIS and kill Kurds. Liberals who are just now talking about supporting Kurds are super hypocritical, same aspect as liberals complaining about putting illegal immigrant kids in cages when that started in the Obama administration and they didn't say a thing.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:23 pm to
The US military advisors will always want war
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Well those military advisors are the ones who’ve already cost us 1,000s of American lives for absolutely no reason in Iraq and quite a few lives in Syria.


So Trump is smarter than the Pentagon. Gotcha. Good to have that on record.

Such great and unmatched wisdom
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:24 pm to
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The US military advisors will always want war


Sounds like they aren’t getting what they want, tough shite
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:25 pm to
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So Trump is smarter than the Pentagon. Gotcha. Good to have that on record.

Such great and unmatched wisdom


When it comes to the Middle East the average person in this thread should be smart enough to realize our influence in the Middle East has been a disaster.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:26 pm to
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The US military advisors will always want war

they actually talked Trump out of firing missles into Iran after the drone got shot down


he wanted to invade, send in nukes
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51509 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:27 pm to
Yeah the more I look into this the more I don't like it. Of course getting out of the middle east is ideal but this isn't even a total withdraw out of Syria. All this is is letting our allies get slaughtered. And it's refreshing to be able to take such a stance with out 100 Trumpkins from PT getting pissy
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:28 pm to
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The military, CIA, and his own party advised against this move 



People keep saying this, but really it's just 'individuals' in those agencies advised him against it.

They don't report on how many or who advised him the opposite. The "advisers" also don't have all the information or have to deal with the diplomatic and political fallout like the president does.

Also, these same "advisers" would have us doing the same things we had been doing for decades. How's that been working out? Pulling US troops out was the right long-term answer, we never needed or wanted to be there forever. The timing should be the only thing in question.
Posted by Vastmind
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:29 pm to
There is an astounding level of faggotry on the OT
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:30 pm to
Every one of y’all, if you have a young son, would be absolutely pissed off if he had to go do a tour in fricking Syria of all places. Not going after Osama Bin Laden, or terrorist who planned 9/11. No going to Syria and being in harms way to protect some Kurds, who in a damn near daily basis shoot rockets into Turkey cities killing innocent people. On top of that in Arab areas they captured from Isis have killed many women and children who weren’t Kurdish. These same people fled ISIS and left Yazidi women and kids to capture in Iraq. Wouldn’t even help them escape or stay and fight to protect them, but they weren’t Kurdish so frick em.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:30 pm to
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Trump did this just to distract the American public from his misdeeds

what?
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:31 pm to
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military advisers, intelligence, cabinet and a lot of well known republican congressmen and senators have disagreed loudly with this decision.




Well who would've ever thought a bunch of warhawks wouldnt want to get out of an endless war?
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51509 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:31 pm to
Jesus can you Trumpkins take a single criticism of Trump without mentioning Obama? We get it he's literally Hitler to yall
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Yeah the more I look into this the more I don't like it. Of course getting out of the middle east is ideal but this isn't even a total withdraw out of Syria. All this is is letting our allies get slaughtered. And it's refreshing to be able to take such a stance with out 100 Trumpkins from PT getting pissy


Our troops weren’t in Syria to begin with to protect Kurds from Turkey, they were there to assist fighting ISIS. And I voted for Obama. I support trump with this
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