re: Turkey begins invasion of Kurdish held northeast Syria

So we should stay there forever? I thought the left was for bringing everyone home?

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Make American Great Again, huh?

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This is just stupid

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All this is is letting our allies get slaughtered.

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Yeah. Stupid, stupid move by us. The Kurds have been our biggest ally against ISIS and we left them to be slaughtered.

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The real question you should ask yourself is, is it in America's interests to put 50,000 troops into Kurdish territory in Iraq and Syria so as to secure the formation of the state of Kurdistan?

Because if we back Kurdish independence in Syria, it will take at least 50,000 troops to support that commitment and to win the war that is almost sure to come.

Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq are not going to give up that land without a fight. There’s no scenario where negotiating for the land is possible either as that’s not how their cultures work, especially over something so sensitive as a full blown state and the size of the land we're talking about here. Might makes right is the prevailing philosophy over there.

We like the Kurds, sure, but at the end of the day what's in it for us to make that kind of sacrifice? You do that and you now have Iraq, Iran and Turkey forming a formal alliance against you to do God knows what.

And the way I see it it's an either-or proposition. Turkey is going to move into Syria because Turkey is tired of Syria destabilizing their southern border. You can't stop that with the 50 or 100 American troops you have left. So either you go all in with 50,000 troops or more to secure an independent Kurdistan, which eventually leads to the gobbling up of a good third of southern and western Turkey and a major war in the process, or YEAH, it's time to get out.

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They are worthy of our support.

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I agree and we are going to continue to support them by arming them. If they wanna send troops to another country we can train them. They sent a lot of troops to Germany for training in the past. No need for American troops in Syria

So you're arguing for perpetual warfare? Look if we're going to do a total pullout of Syria let's do it, however this is not it. We will still have troops in Syria

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what?

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WAKEUP SHEEPLE

I tend to get my news from npr podcasts, Reddit, TD, and Ben Shapiro podcast


It's really crazy to see the vast difference in the way news is interpreted and twisted by news sources and people. Reddit is so far left (Trump can do no right) so much of TD is so far right (Trump can do no wrong), NPR seems to be left-leaning, Shapiro is obviously right-leaning. I have no chance of forming any coherent opinion on shite bc it just flies by so fast and I don't have time to digest everything.

I know that this rant has nothing to do specifically with the topic of Turks vs Kurds but that is just my reaction after hearing about it from all of the places I get my news. How does anyone have time to keep up with this shite?

The Kurdish situation isn’t binary. There are solutions available. China doesn’t officially recognize Taiwan but they still exist due to a delicate diplomatic balance.

Most of Northern Pakistan is run by tribal leaders independent of the government in Islamabad

There are even parts of Spain that operate semiautonomously

General Lee once came to this board to out a terrorist dry run at a Walmart in Illinois that turned out to be a Mexican with a backpack shopping. He is a bastion of world political knowledge.